Tricks for Packing Light: 2005
Share your creative tricks to fit your world into a small bag for a European trip.
discarding clothes
Hi, all - in defense of the poster who planted the suggestion of leaving clothes behind, and then got sharply criticized ... if done right, it's not a bad idea. Perhaps more applicable to someone staying a while in one place (i.e. students living abroad for a semester) rather than just-passing-through travelers, b/c you have an opportunity to get to know the area and figure out where to make charity donations (church, social organization, etc.) Also, it allows you to free up space in suitcases - any time you stay somewhere, you accumulate way more stuff than you brought! (I guess that's true of travel in general). One of the best things I did at the end of my semester abroad was abandon the shoes that I'd worn to death. (I still miss 'em, though - *snif*)
Kelly
Grafton, ND USA Sat 12/31/2005
Packing Roulette
While it may be true that the TSA allows this or that, the rules allow indiv airport security personnel to be stricter and ban what TSA allows. It is still a ludicrous crapshoot that does nothing to prevent or deter anything. We dont fly to Europe, so we dont deal w that nonsense in its rawest form. Buy the corkscrew or any object that might not pass, over there.
Paul n Sara
USA Thu 12/29/2005
Packing light Amy
Wendy,
considering the risks involved with checking baggage, I would buy a cork screw in Europe before I would check a bag. However, that is no longer a concern; the TSA now allows you to carry on a corkscrew. Happy carrying on.
Lee
USA Thu 12/29/2005
Packing light Amy
When my cousin and I were going to Europe I told her she could only take a carry on bag for 1 month. She would have to carry it on the train, up stairs at the hotel etc. Her reaction when I gave her the news was total shock that she had to take that small of a bag. She did not think she could do it. In the end she did it and thanked me frequently for making her take a small bag that she was able to handle and managed by herself. It is expandable to hold all the stuff we pick up on the trip. And we bring an extra bag to fill also. I always check my bags because I want my bottle opener for picnics, and cannot carry them on. So far I have not had any problems. When you're going over put on the name tag the address you are going to be at. Not your home address. That way the airlines know were you are. Then flip the information over for the return trip. Even though this trip you are going to be staying in one place you might want to go back. Once you're hooked that is it. Maybe exchange your larger bag for a small carry on and a fold up bag that will go over the handles and sit on top of the suitcase. Eagle creak has a wonderful selection. I am sure your daughter would rather you had something you might use more often. Also back to my cousin, after learning to pack light she has never used her 24 inch suitcase again.
Wendy <email>
Brooklyn Park, MN USA Wed 12/28/2005
Amy - World Cup trip
Pack what you need, especially if you will be in one place for a while and/or will have a rental car. The problem with bigger, heavier bags is the moving between cities on buses or trains.
And yes - you CAN pack a carryon of less than 15 lbs especially in summer -lighter clothes and shoes. Just don't pack several pairs of shoes and jeans! It helps if you don't much care about accessorizing everything, or wearing the same outfit nore than once, or wearing the same pants with 3 different tops for 3 different looks. You get the picture...
FL USA Wed 12/28/2005
Bigger bag
It sounds like if you are going primarily for the World Cup, you will be staying mostly in one place? I would think that would make a big difference. If you are going straight to your hotel from the airport and staying put for awhile, even if your checked bag takes a day or two to catch up with you, you'll still be reunited! Whereas, if you are always on the move, a new place every day or two, and lots of public transport, then smaller would be better. Regardless, make sure to take a change of clothes and some mini toiletries, just in case.
Karen
Seattle, USA Mon 12/26/2005
Checking Bags
Amy-we also check bags and like being in the terminal with a true (small) carryon or, in my husband's case, nothing but the camera. We have had bags delayed twice and no, it wasn't fun, but they caught up with us after a day or two, even in small cities. Having said this, I'll tell you that we do pack only one large suitcase for the two of us, so are still "packing light" in terms of the amount of clothing. On a 3 week trip I'd do laundry twice so pack for 7-8 clean days at the most. This usually means 3-4 different bottoms (skirts/pants) and probably 7 different shirts. Lightweight clothing (if traveling in warm weather) allows you to bring more items, so leave the jeans at home. My teenage daughter loved her expandable Rick Steves bag when she traveled around Europe this past summer. She did carryon on the ay over, then did the expansion and filled it with souveniers and checked in on the way home. Best tip is, no matter how big (or small) your bag is, you should be able to handle it yourself, so weight is important. If you can't handle the larger bag comfortably then you should consider bringing something smaller.
USA Mon 12/26/2005
Amy : checked baggage
Amy we check luggage. I think last trip I packed about as light as i could....we went with a duffle bag on wheels, a smaller one, and a 21 inch roller bag. We each had a carry on two small backpacks.
that was fine. I think for shorter trips I could pack light but never pack so light that I never check anything. With airlines being so picky over what you can bring on I think in the near future you will more and more people checking their luggage because they are going to have little choice
bluedenim
canada Sun 12/25/2005
Amy - Bigger Bag
Having just received a Rick Steves bag for xmas, I used to have a large bag and a smaller bag when I travel. The last time I travelled in the US, my checked bag was lost for a few days and boy, was I upset not having basic things! In Europe, however, I have a tendency to take as little as possible and then buy clothes there! I prefer to buy cheap clothes there and that way I feel less like a tourist. Amy, do what makes you happiest! It is your trip and if you want to bring a bigger bag, then do! My friend brings 2 shirts for every day of a trip, but that is the only way she feels comfortable travelling. I like to do a combination!
Maia <email>
Chapel Hill, NC USA Sun 12/25/2005
Amy- bigger bag
Amy, if it's any consolation. my husband and I travel to Europe about every other year...we take our tandem bike with us and luggage. We end up with 4 bags..2 each. Two of these are for our bike, and they are pretty big, but not too heavy. We obviously check all our bags. I take a backpack as carry one and a small guide bag for daily use. We've never had problems with our checked luggage. (knock on wood) Even with several connections, all our luggage has appeared at the other end.
Don't over think the size of your bag. 24" is fine. Just make sure you don't over pack on the way over...leave room for some souveniers. Also, I hope the suitcase itself isn't too heavy. You will be in charge of carting that thing around, even with wheels, suitcases can get heavy.
We've managed to get our bike cases and our luggage on trains with a little bit of hassle, but have always made it (but don't ask about the late train in Chuisi- that's another story!)
Everyone travels differently, that's why we like to give our ideas on this board. I can tell you, in my opinion, it's not that much of a hassle to get your luggage at the other end...and it's nice to just get on the plane and get into your seat quickly.
Ellen <email>
Centennial, CO USA Sun 12/25/2005
Light packers
For Amy: I think you should keep in mind that most "posters" here are "packing light" gurus and firm believers- I enjoy getting new tips (regardless of if you check your beautiful new gift bag you will get great ideas to save space in it) and have even more fun when real experts battle over who packed less ounces- I still chuckle about someone who picked up a twist- tie off the street when the "argument" was over whether bread package plastic thingees were lighter and hence preferable to portable hangers for drip- drying clothes!
USA Sat 12/24/2005
My trip to Europe June/July 2006
My daughter bought me a very nice Samosonite rolling 24" suitcase for my trip this summer. After reading these postings I am afraid she shouldn't have purchased such a large bag. Does any one here check luggage? I am going to be gone for 24 days during the World Cup and can't believe that no one on this site checks luggage. Am I just that out of touch?
Amy
Irvine, CA USA Sat 12/24/2005
Healthy Back Bag
I think that by Better Back Bag you mean the Healthy Back Bag, also known as the Ameribag? I got one in black leather, in the largest size and I love travelling with it. It holds a lot comfortably and is so much more stylish than a backpack/daybag. I haven't had problems with losing things. I'm sorry that it doesn't seem to work well for you.
Just a Traveller
USA Wed 12/21/2005
What's a BBB reply
Better Back Bag
USA Sun 12/18/2005
Better Back Bags
On a trip to London I borrowed my Mom's BBB, and I hated it. It was akward to carry, and the only good way to get into it is to either sit down with it on your lap, or rest it on some flat surface. I lost three metro cards because I would stick them in random pockets instead of having to hassle with that devil bag in a busy metro station. While spending a summer in Africa I used a black webbing shoulder bag from Jansport, and it was perfect. Not to big, not to small, water resistant, a thick webbing shoulder strap, and when hung across your chest it stays right at the front of your hip; easy access, but safe from purse stealers. If it made it through East Africa, it will make it through Europe.
Linsey
Kent, OH USA Sat 12/17/2005
Cold weather trick
Hot Hands from Wal-Mart are a lot cheaper than Therma Cares - 50 cents each or less. And they come in toe-warmer sizes, too.
USA Thu 12/15/2005
Weather in France in May/June
Debbie, I have been to France twice in late May/early June and the weather is a bit like it is in my home state of Texas. One day it will be cold and rainy and then the weather clears and it is sunny. It is not necessarily hot (but hot to me is 90-100 degrees). I once even had to go to a Gap in Paris and buy a sweatshirt. We backpack so we don't take a lot of stuff. I would suggest taking a light jacket maybe with a fleece lining (like a light Northface Jacket) and water resistant. I would pack mostly pants or capris and throw in some tanks and lightweight cardigans.
Ivy <email>
TX USA Wed 12/14/2005
Clothes to wear in Provence
My girlfriends and I will be traveling to Provence France during late May/early June 2006 (we rented a villa)(we are in our 50's). I am unsure if it is best to bring spring (short sleeve shirts/long pants) or summer clothes (tanks/shorts) for the trip. I understand it can be quite warm that time of year. Thanks for any advice!
Debbie
California USA Tue 12/13/2005
cold weather trick
Try taking the "pain relief patches" (ThermaCare, Ace, CuraHeat. Not the medicated Aspercreme brand). They are like a stick-on heating pads and they last for 8 hours. They come in a variety of sizes for all different parts of your body. I like the Neck to Arm or the Back wraps. Chances are these 2 places tend to need TLC while on vacation. If you wear them on your upper body (Neck or back)they make your whole body feel warmer!
USA Tue 12/13/2005
winter travel
I agree that cold hands and feet can make you miserable. I personally like the light weight socks by Smart Wool. Found mine at REI. They are black and approx the same weight as dress socks but much warmer and dry overnight. I also use silk long underwear bottoms as pajama bottoms, lighter weight than flannel and warmer. I like lined leather gloves for my hands. Throwing a few "hand warmers" (REI)into the luggage isn't a bad idea either!
BJD
Minneapolis, MN USA Sun 12/11/2005
Silk undies are a must in cold weather
It's amazing how light weight they are and how warm they keep you as layering pieces. I bring four of them along--a silk camisole, a three quarter length sleeve scoopneck, a long sleeved mockneck, and a combination silk and cashmere crewneck. The mockneck and crewneck are heavy enough (and nontransparent enough!) to be worn as the main top under a jacket or can be layered for additional warmth. Total weight of all four pieces--just about 1 pound!
JER
USA Sun 12/11/2005
Bulky stuff
Those compressison bags are very useful, whether purchased through the RS store or elsewhere. They come in different sizes. Sweaters smush down to a flat and packable layer. That said, just because they are compressed they are still "there", in terms of weight and taking too much stuff. Archived and previous posters talk about the benefits of layering to avoid the bulk, too. Also, consider (depending where you are going) buying a sweater when you get there. Lastly, if your feet, head or hands are cold you will feel cold! Good socks, gloves and a hat (especially the aforementioned fleece) are really important.
USA Sun 12/11/2005
For winter I depend on fleece.
It's light in weight, dries quickly and packs easily. Man made fleece, that is. I have fleece pants, a vest and a top that all together weigh in at less than 1 pound. It is harder for my husband who's pants weigh a lot more, but traveling with fleece helps a lot.
Ellen
Fort Worth, TX USA Sun 12/11/2005
Do not check bags
Flying in from Charles Degaulle into Boston. The flight was nearly two hours late. Check bags in starting at Dublin. The staff in Dublin said the bags were check through to Ohio. But Boston makes you claim the bags first before your outbound flight. With customs, security and waiting for check baggage nearly missed the next flight.
Ohio USA Sun 12/11/2005
I don't want your old clothes
OK, can we as a group agree to never again bring up the idea of leaving our old clothes behind. For goodness sake Europeans don't want your old clothes, most dress better than most of us anyway. Which brings up the idea of wearing your crummiest clothes on vacation...Really? Why in the world would anyone want to wear out of date, out of style and potentially worn out clothing on a vacation that costs thousands. And then, there is frequently a discussion on this board about how not to look like a tourist...well one way may be to not look like your wearing your own hand-me-downs. A little flair, a little pazzaz while on the streets of Paris, Rome or Vernazza.
John
Salt Lake City , UT USA Fri 12/09/2005
In place of boots
We brought totes that fit over shoes with us to Poland so we wouldn't have to carry heavy boots.
Marie
Verona, NJ USA Mon 12/05/2005
Checking luggage
As harrowing as waiting for checked luggage can be on the flight home, the flight over can be even more precarious. I have flown to Europe eight times, and on three of these trips my luggage was almost delayed or (once) nearly completely lost; none of these times were on the way home.
The latest experience involved a connection in the US to a Lufthansa flight to Frankfurt. The domestic flight was so late that we only made the connection because United met us (12 people) at the gate and took us by van to the international terminal. I am sure no luggage made the connection. On the flight were several businessmen who had checked everything. Fortunately, by that time, I had become a RS follower and everything I had was carried on. I spent that night five hours by train from FRA and at least three hours from the nearest major airport. No telling how long it would have been before I received luggage.
Delayed luggage can ruin a vacation. This would be particularly critical for anyone connecting to a low cost airline.
Lee
USA Mon 12/05/2005
I agree!
This summer, with huge crowds and nothing that even resembled a line at two of Italy's airports, the only reason we made either of our flights was because we had no checked luggage to re- collect. Although admittedly feeling a little stinky (all out of clean clothes for the trip home!) I got over that as we just grabbed our little carry- ons and sprinted for the next gate.
USA Mon 12/05/2005
Checking luggage & connecting flights in US
The delays waiting for checked luggage can be particularly harrowing when you return from abroad and have to pick up your luggage after immigration, carry it through customs, then re-check it onto the connecting flight. We barely made our connection on one of our trips (got to the gate running just 2 minutes before the door closed) because our checked bags took almost 40 minutes to be unloaded; apparently there were 3 planes landing at the same time. Once this happens, you really do not ever want to check your luggage again!
And we once did miss our connecting flight due to extremely slow immigration lines at the old Philly airport - thank goodness that area has been totally remodeled, but it can still happen if 3 planes land at the same time and then you still have to wait for your checked luggage to come out and go through customs.so think before you check in!
Tallahassee, USA Mon 12/05/2005
clothing toss
Allow me to clarify my point: Discard old socks and undies in the trash. Gently worn clothing (outerwear) can be left: either given to hotel workers, homeless people one encounters or left on parkbenches where homeless people are clearly residing. And, yes, I have done this in the US as well as abroad.
J Bianchi
St Louis, MO USA Mon 12/05/2005
Old clothes
I agree...I mean come on people - leaving your dirty old clothes on park benches? This is your idea of packing light? How about taking less clothes and doing some laundry along the way? Or if you're really dead set on leaving things behind, how about doing some research and finding a shelter or donation center where you can give your old clothes. (After doing the laundry of course). Leaving your clothes in a park just looks like littering.
USA Sun 12/04/2005
Seriously?
I'm a packing light devotee, too, but intentionally leaving unwanted/soiled/used items behind is basically littering and very rude. Would you do that in your hometown in the USA? Goodness. If it's too old and worn for you, a homeless person won't find it useful either. If you were in the middle of a rural area of Iowa, say, would you leave your old worn sweat socks on some bench outside a Denny's????
USA Sun 12/04/2005
Toss the laundry
When my husband and I take long trips, we bring our oldest socks and underwear and discard them as we travel. When traveling in rural areas, we wear old clothes and discard them too. (I leave the clothing on park benches.) That way, our bags grow lighter as we go, and there's more room for souveniers we purchase along the way.
J Bianchi
St Louis, MO USA Sun 12/04/2005
Spring in Spain
Leks--Madrid is farther north (latitude similar to New York City) and quite high in elevation (2000 feet). It can be chillier than one would expect. I froze there in early June because I took only one light rain jacket. So don't forget a fleece jacket or pullover. Fleece is great because it is light in weight and dries quickly if you do need to wash it in the sink.
USA Thu 12/01/2005
Spring in Spain
In case you can't do any wash, I'd bring some Fabrize and do a practice sink wash before you go (just to make sure what you're taking will dry quickly).
USA Wed 11/30/2005
Deflateable packing bags
I really don't see how deflateable (compressible) packing bags make your bags any lighter. In fact they are probably heavier than other packing bags (mesh) you might use.
Deflateable bags, of course, would make the bag smaller, but I have never found bag size to be a problem. Even at the max allowable weight (17.6 # on Lufthansa), my carryon bag is far from full.
Lee
CO USA Tue 11/29/2005
Packing for Spring Spain
Hey y'all!!
I'm going to Spain with my Spanish Honor Society in April, and frankly, I'm at a total loss as to what to bring with me. We are restricted to one bag and one carry-on and I'm not sure whether we'll be able to do any wash while we're there (we're there from the 13th April until the 26th/27th). Does anyone have any ideas or a general packing list that would be suitable??
Also, what is the weather like in Madrid/Southern Spain like in April?
Thanks SOOO much!! :)
Leks <email>
South Milwaukee, WI USA Tue 11/29/2005
Deflateable packing bags.
We went to Rome, Florence, Venice, France and Barcelona with another couple. It was our first trip to Europe. Their advice was to "Pack light". My wife found those bags which you can squeeze the air out of and they were GREAT!. I followed Rick's advice on 2-pants, 2-shirts, etc and it allowed us to have basic carry-on bags, utility bags and a purse for my wife.
Going bewteen trains and planes etc was fairly easy.
Edward Lear
Cincinnati, OH USA Tue 11/29/2005
You're going to carry-on what?
Just got back from Barcelona for a quick trip and our departure was delayed on Air France due to ALL the carry-on luggage. We couldn't believe it! As we left from Paris to the US, our luggage (Rich Steves' style bags) was on the ground being loaded with all the other check-IN luggage, and it looked TINY.
Go light! You will never want to travel any other way!
Our $30 Campmore bags have served us well for 18 countries and five years. But we also have a Rick Steves rolling bag, which we break out if we have to bring lots of gifts or plan to bring back lots of souvenirs.
USA Mon 11/28/2005
Limits
I don't expect to fly Air Transat, but there are other airlines with less than a 22" limit (Aerlingus is 18"). However, I don't know if that is a problem for me. Packed with 17 1/2 # of mostly clothing, my ETBD convertible carry-on bag is nowhere near full. It is kind of like Odo, the shape shifter. I think it could be made to comply with almost any dimensions requirement. I have had no problem putting it through luggage templates, ever.
That is one of the thing I like about the bag. When I put it in an overhead bin, it always fits in long dimension back to front and takes minimal width in the bin. There is even room for my jacket on the top.
Lee
CO USA Sun 11/20/2005
limits
Be careful with Air Canada vs. Air Transat, which is a Canadian charter.
AC did allow a 21 inch by 14 inch by 9 inch bag at 10kg and a smaller article at 10kg.
However, Air Transat only allows one carry on, one, that's it. This is supposed to be 20 inches by 16 by 9, slightly different dimensions...they did not allow the ETBD 21 by 14 by 9 inch bag on and I had to check it. (seems odd as it is 2 inches thinner and 1 inch longer) I had on a small waistpack too which seemed to go unnoticed.
I wish airlines would really standardize their carry on limits so we know for sure what is allowable.
When I see the limit, I try to pack slightly under it and I weigh my bags before I go to make sure they fall within the guidelines. My carry on bag (i take one) is usually about 17-18 pounds. And, as I said, I have a small waistpack.
Canada Fri 11/18/2005
security pouch
The ONLY security pouch that I will even consider is one that hangs down from your waist under your clothes along the side of your leg. I have one that can be secured to your belt, but last year I did one even better, and attached a security pouch to the interior waist bands of my skirts and pants. It's like a cloth business envelope-sized thing that opens at the top.
Just tug your waist band forward, slip in a few fingers to draw out a passport, additional money, credit card, etc. When taking out money at the ATM, we quickly did the reverse, tug the waist band, and slip the money in before you even turn away from the ATM.
I won't bother with any other kind of security belt ever again. It's cooler, more secure, and more readily used.
J
FL USA Thu 11/17/2005
New (?) Airline Carry-on Limits
I am not so sure the 8 kg limit on Lufthansa is so new. I flew to Germany almost two years ago. They weighed my carry-on, and I thought they said at the time that the limit was 8 kg. I passed. It's a lot easier to do with my older model, non-expandable ETBD bag that weighs 2 3/4 # vs. a 7 1/2 # wheeled bag!
Your time wasted at the carousels was nothing compared to what else might have happened to your bags. I checked luggage my first three trips to Europe. Once my bags were nearly delayed; once they were almost lost entirely. Since embracing Rick's carry-on philosophy, my luggage has not been a concern. However, on one of my last five trips to Europe, had I checked my bag, it would have been delayed at least a day, probably more.
So, make sure you know what the weight limit is for the airline you are flying - it is always somewhere on their website - and stay under it.
For information, at last check, Air France allows 12 kg, KLM and Swiss Air allow 10 kg. On Lufthansa and SAS, it is 8 kg. I think those limits are doable. On the other hand, British Air and Aerlingus only allow 6 kg, and Alitalia allows 5 kg. I will never fly those airlines.
According to Air Canada's website, they allow two carry-on pieces - one a traditional sized carry-on and one smaller, like a laptop or briefcase. Each are allowed to be up to 22 #.
<email>
USA Thu 11/17/2005
Carry on doesn't mean carry on everything you own!
Too bad they didn't publicize their policy change better!Thanks for the information. I travel these airlines a lot. I always check my bag, as I am too short to reach the overhead bins. I can see why the airlines are cracking down--on my last trip, I saw several people try to fit full-size bags into the overhead. I couldn't believe my eyes, and I don't understand how they managed to get them on the plane without being stopped. For me, packing light means being able to handle my bag easily once I pick it up from the carousel. I have not found the waits to be particularly long. Personally, I try to carry on only what will fit under the seat in front of me and serve as a handy foot rest, but I think I'd better weigh it before my next trip!
Carrie
Pacific Grove, CA USA Thu 11/17/2005
New Airline Carry-on Bag Limits
We just got back from Frankfurt. On the outward bound leg, we presented our carefully packed Rick Steves bags weighing exactly 10 kg (22#) each at the airline check-in and were told that they were about 5# overweight for carry-on luggage, since Lufthansa's new limit is 8 KG (17.6#). Thus, we were forced to check our bags. Same problem on the return.
This is disappointing, as we had to waste time at the baggage carousels waiting to pick up our bags. This seems to be the new reality-our travel agent told us that Air Canada has the same rule.
Mel & Dee Dear, Vancouver BC
Mel Dear
Vancouver, BC Can Thu 11/17/2005
Jacket or Sweater
2 years ago I went to Amsterdam in February. I had the goretex shell, polypro fleece sweater mentioned below and it worked great. You can also take thin polypro long underwear (they make a black turtleneck that looks sophisticated). I'd recommend thinking about hat/gloves/muffler too.
Generally I think that wearing layers is really the best, and if you can get the sweater and jacket with underarm zips they're even more flexible.
George Harvey <email>
Seattle, Wa USA Tue 11/15/2005
I think the Columbia Jacket is sold by LLBean...nice jacket - if it's the one I'm thinking of.
USA Mon 11/14/2005
Jacket or sweater
Bruce, I swear by my Columbia jacket--the kind that has the two layers that zip together--it's so versatile. I know Lands End makes something similar. The outer layer is great on its own for a waterproof, windproof jacket when necessary. The inner fleece layer is a good "sweater" looking jacket. And if you're really cold, just zip the two together and you have a great parka. I can't say enough about these jackets!
M
USA Mon 11/14/2005
Jacket or sweater?
Need help on deciding if I should pack my heavy jacket or just wear a sweater and layers for travel to Prague and Vienna. Will a sweater with layers and hat and gloves be enough for winter travel here in the next couple weeks? I plan on doing a lot of walking.
Bruce <email>
Charlotte, NC USA Mon 11/14/2005
Pants for women
I've found some great pants for women at Eddie Bauer. They are comfortable, much lighter and less bulky than jeans, look good and can be dressed up, and dry quickly after washing. They are called Bremerton "Slim Fit Stretch Pants" but don't worry--they are not tight-fitting at all. (The Bremerton line means loose-fitting, so that cancels out the "slim-fit") They have a side zip and no pockets, so no extra bulk. And they are flattering---making even curvy me look slim. 92% cotton and 8% Lycra means they are breathable and a little stretchy for comfortable sitting. I took 2 pair on our trip in September. Washed them out in the sink and they dry overnight, hanging on the towel rack (the wash tag says hang dry, no dryer). They come in several dark colors, besides basic black. And no, I don't work for EB, I just like these pants a lot and think they are great for travel.
Lorna
Bellevue, Washington USA Fri 11/11/2005
Great suggestions!
Thank you for the useful tips! Everyone is different, of course, but I found it easier to make photocopies of everything (vouchers, hotel confirmations, passports, e-tickets) vital and keep them in a plastic business- size envelope...when in transit I kept it for safety in my purse/backpack but otherwise it took up no room in the bottom of the 22 inch bag (or room safe) depending. I got rid of the copies as we used the vouchers- I made a duplicate set to keep in my husband's bag the same way just in case. For guidebooks I did the rip-out-the-pages strategy and kept each city in small zip-lock baggies- which also took very little room and kept the itinerary organized. As I got brochures or postcards (I make a big scrapbook when back) those went into that particular baggie. It's amazing how much you can forget, compared to my old strategy of dumping it all together in one bag! I used the computer to shrink emergency contacts, all the hotels, important phone numbers small enough to fit on two sides of a 3 by 5 card- I made enough of those for each of the members of my family. Lastly, I too am a packing cube convert, which I also augmented with some MORE zip-locks. It makes such a difference in keeping organized on the road, beyond the space- saving merits. Thank you!
USA Thu 11/10/2005
Packing Cubes and Good Organization
I was on a three week trip to Italy and Greece last month and because we were not staying in any city longer than 3 days, I had to pack light. I took a 22 inch expandable carry on and I swear by this technique.
I layered the pants/jeans ( 3 pairs) and a pair of shorts at the bottom. Next came the three skirts in the compression bags.Then the pjs, lounge pants and top rolled up.Then the two cashmere cardigans for layering. Next came the three packing cubes which were purchased from Magellan. I rolled all my underwear in one cube. All my socks in the other cube and in the large cube, rolled tank tops ( 3) and tshirts( 6). All three cubes fit nicely in the bag. On top of that I placed my jean jacket and another corduroy jacket. Then on top of that two pairs of sandals.I expanded my bag during the trip to accommodate the shopping purchases.
I purchased the Febreeze based on others suggestions but decided not to bring it and it wasn't necessary.
Based on a friend's recommendation I purchased a small journal and anything that was important such as a printout of a flight itinerary or a train schedule or a hotel shuttle bus schedule, I minimized on a copy machine, cut it out and glued it into the journal. I also glued in a list of names and addresses of people we wanted to send postcards to. This journal was a great way to consolidate a lot of paper. The only downside to this is you have to make sure you treat it like your wallet. If you lose it, it's a hassle.
Ann
San Francisco, CA USA Wed 11/09/2005
Cubes and Folders
I use an Eagle Creek Pack It Folder for my clothes, and one of Rick's cubes for undies and socks. It's fabulous. I did have Eagle Creek cubes, but Rick's are better -- they are deeper and thus hold more without taking up much more room, they are all mesh so lighter weight and collapse down to nothing, and they are cheaper. Can't beat that!
USA Wed 11/09/2005
Packing Cubes
Speaking of organization, I tried Rick's packing cubes this year for the first time and LOVED them!!! They made packing so much easier. I ordered a second set the day I got home.
Nancy
Hell, Mi USA Wed 11/09/2005
That depends -- did you make her carry her own big bag? (wink)
Well, that was "supposed" to be the deal, but you know how that goes. When I turned around one time in London and saw her dragging the suitcase with the wheels pointing UP in the air, I knew it was time to switch!
And, you are right about keeping your clothes neat and organized at all times. Jumbled up clothing takes up more room.
Steve
Richmond, USA Tue 11/08/2005
Simple and Organized
We are hoping to go again this Spring and I hope my wife learned some lessons from last year.
That depends -- did you make her carry her own big bag? (wink)
Something I've been meaning to add to this thread.
Some people recommend Ziplock bags. Some people recommend Eagle Creek PackIt Folders. Some people recommend vacuum bags.
I'm not sure it makes any difference which technique you use. The outcome is the same. Clothes packed straight into a bag will expand and take up more room. They'll slide around and get more wrinkled.
If you contain them in some kind of organizing system -- your choice -- they will take up less room and get less wrinkled.
But the key to this is, once you've gotten them organized and packed, you must keep them that way. I'm disorganized at home but when traveling, I fold things neatly and repack exactly the way I had them initially. If I don't, stuff expands and suddenly nothing fits in my bag.
I do take a ziplock bag for socks and undies that need to be washed, but beyond that, I fold things I've worn and pack them back as neatly as when they were clean. (If something was really muddy or smelly or soiled, I'd take the time to wash it, but I've never had that problem.)
Figure out your system, then keep to it when you're on the road, and you won't have any problems.
Patricia
Dallas, TX USA Tue 11/08/2005
Keep It Simple!
I almost hesitate to enter this as some may think it's gross, but here goes. Last Spring my wife and I spent 10 days in Europe. My suitcase was what is commonly known as a pilot's case and in it I packed 3 pairs of jeans, five long sleeve shirts, 10 pair of socks(a clean pair of socks each day is a must, naturally, and they don't take up much room) , pajama bottoms, three t-shirts, and the usual toiletries.
I brought a small bottle of Fabreze and used a little on my jeans and shirt at night and hung them up. Dirty socks went in a large zippered bag. My toiletries and other odds and ends (power adaptors for dig camera, battery charger, etc.) went in a clear plastic zippered bag that a set of bed sheets came in.
I won't go into how much my wife packed, but suffice it to say, her suitcase was MUCH larger. Since we used public transportation everywhere we went, I can tell you that the less you have to carry, the happier you will be! The tube ride from Heathrow into central London, for example, was exhausting, especially considering that many of the stations do not have elevators or escalators and we had to change lines to get to Westminster (not to mention the shuttle bus from the airport to Hatton Cross.) The RER train from deGaulle airport into central Paris, along with a change to a subway line, took over an hour. While the walk from the subway station to our hotel was only about 3 blocks, that is a long way if you are lugging heavy baggage. We had to take a bus from our hotel to Gare de L'Est to catch the train to Salzburg, and it was standing room only. Trying to manage suitcases on a ride like that - talk about herding cats!
My point is - my clothing needs were simple considering the kind of traveling we did. Since we were not going to anything formal, jeans and dress shirts were enough. Jeans are generic - if you wore the same pair for 5 straight days, who will know as long as they are clean? Shirts hung up over night are fine to wear again - who are you going to run into more than once?
Finally, my suitcase was carry-on size, my wife's had to be checked. So, why were we standing around in baggage claim in London, Paris, and Baltimore?? We are hoping to go again this Spring and I hope my wife learned some lessons from last year.
Steve
Richmond, Virginia USA Tue 11/08/2005
soap leaves or...
Speaking of soap leaves, I tried something new on our recent RS tour of Rome, Florence, and Venice. I took a package of Huggies baby washcloths, already impregnated with baby soap. I separated the cloths into two zip-top bags, and used one per day during our trip. The soap was so mild that I didn't use any body lotion during the trip! They removed eye makeup easily, too. Of course, they were a disposable item, so as the trip went on, I gained a bit of space.
My husband took a washcloth I made by cutting one of those Miracle Cloths into 4ths and zigzagging the edges. It worked very well and dried quickly.
Carol
Reston, VA USA Mon 11/07/2005
Soap Leaves
I found soap leaves at a Dollar Tree.
FL USA Mon 11/07/2005
soap
A soapy question: where can I find those packets of paper soap sheets? I've seen some that have 50 little sheets per package but can't remember where.
Thanks. :)
Margaret
USA Sun 11/06/2005
Flying BMI
Sorry, forgot to say that we did not encounter the "laptop" and do not know whether that means computer or some kind of bag.
Iain
Edmonton, AB Canada Fri 11/04/2005
Flying BMI
Just returned from Europe. Flew BMI Venice to London and London to Edinburgh. Neither time were our carry-ons weighed and they did not seem concerned about the weight of the checked luggage. Some people at Venice were asked to put their carry ons in a frame for size, but I do not believe they were weighed.
Maybe we were lucky (our carry ons were heavy)
First time we had used BMI and found their flight very good, but check in at Venice was a nightmare, did not open till 1 3/4 hrs before departues, went very slowly, security was even slower and we arrived in departure lounge 5 minutes before take off. Fortunately flight was delayed.
Check in at London was the opposite, electronic ticket at self check in and got rid of checked baggage in 2 minutes, even though airport was crowded and planes delayed and cancelled due to fog that morning.
Iain
Edmonton, AB Canada Fri 11/04/2005
laptops, literally??!
I would guess that the company means an additional "purse"- sized bag that could be held on your "lap"- not a humungous shoulder backpack or enormous briefcase- OR a laptop- sized case with a laptop in it, since so many people carry them. Maybe other posters here have actually flown with them, though! Happy travels!
USA Fri 11/04/2005
Unpacking
When you return from a trip, as you unpack, separate out every single garment, toiletry, etc that you didn't use. I just returned from a 3-week trip, and I realized that I didn't use half of what I took, a lesson for future travels. Also note any particularly useful items--comfy clothes, etc. The one thing I did forget to take was an extra foldable bag for my souvenirs.
Carrie
Pacific Grove, CA USA Fri 11/04/2005
BMI Airlines Question - Please Help!
We'll be flying BMI from LHR to AMS in about two weeks. We plan to be at or under the 7KG weight limit for the cheap tickets. However, per BMI, we are allowed one additional "laptop" carryon. I'm not sure if I'm going to take my laptop. If I don't take it, can I still carry the bag on (with other items inside, of course). I searched the BMI site and couldn't find the answer. Yes, this is a weird question ... LOL
First time European traveler, total newbie, confused ...............
Jac <email>
FL USA Fri 11/04/2005
Packing light
I learned like most--the hard way--to pack light. I swear by: the travel size compression bags that squeeze the air out by rolling (everything is tidy if you have an improptu security check--makes repacking very easy); a cashmere sweater (black) as it is thin, light, warm, easy for layering and dressy if necessary; and the idea that I can get anything anywhere (within reason--obviously, not necessary meds). I bring my make up, but a large majority of my toiletries I buy once I arrive. They take up so much space, you have the leak factor, and I find it fun nosing around in "everyday" places--for me, I find that interesting to see how folks really live. I do take a mini toothbrush and paste in my purse to freshen up in flight, etc. Additionally, when I arrive in most European cities, it is usually too early to check into my hotel so it gives me a chance to wander my new neighborhood a bit, and explore. On my way back that night, I make a stop and grab shampoo, deo and shower gel. Most hotels/motels/bnbs have hairdryers on site in the room or for the asking. I often check ahead as my hair is long and a blow dryer is a must.
USA Wed 11/02/2005
Wearing Skirts
One person suggested wearing a split skirt slip with skirts and dresses. I bought one at Kohl's recently (I believe I paid about $9) and now it is the only slip I wear under skirts or dresses. It is great! Will help prevent the rubbing thigh problem. That was one of the best suggestions I have read here. Keep the good suggestions coming!
USA Wed 11/02/2005
Packing Light
For your luggage, skirts, skirts, skirts ladies! Long, short, jean, cotton. Skirts are functional, easy to wear, and fit in with European style. (You might want a couple of pairs of biker shorts. I wore a skirt one weekend and rubbed my thighs raw.)
I found for general stuff to get a messenger bag or something similar. The best ones I've found have been in H&M department stores. Small enough to be functional, big enough to carry all you need, plus its a usable souveniour.
KC <email>
Ottumwa, IA USA Tue 11/01/2005
Margaret: better back bag
Margaret, you mentioned using a better back bag at home. I'd suggest using that in Italy. I use the BBB at home because of an old injury and it worked perfectly in Italy. The zipper is adjacent to your body--so it's great for security. Also, everywhere I've traveled, it's considered a purse and so I can keep it with me, while friends with other travel bags sometimes find they are considered a backpack or carryon--and they have to check them in museums or other venues. Mine is medium size and it held everything I needed in Italy: camera, guide book, sun glasses, hat, water, phone, small binoculars, sm notebook; before leaving home I found a tiny umbrella that fit in the outside pocket on the spine of the bag; and the other outside pockets were great for brochures, tickets, etc. So if it works for you at home, I'd suggest taking it with you. Have a great trip.
Shari
Minn, MN USA Sun 10/30/2005
Margaret - bag for Italy
i've been to Italy 4x, and each time I took the Eagle Creek Guide Bag. It's large enough for extras like my digital camera, chapstick, sunglasses, small wallet, guide book, etc. I've just tied my jacket around my waist when needed (never needed it for rain) It's stylish enough to look like a handbag, but secure enough for pickpockets..it had a loud plastic clasp, then a zipper to deter fingers.. This is what has worked for me. the guide bag is always the first thing I grab when I start to prepare for my next trip!
USA Sun 10/30/2005
thoughts on bags
For Margaret: I used Rick's Civita day bag (in black) when in Italy this summer in addition to the security waist pouch (which in your case will be the neck pouch). It really WILL be necessary to have some sort of carrying object for camera, guidebook and small purchases during the day. I found having different compartments necessary to stay organized during the long days and it also made me feel less of a "target" to not have to dump stuff out or fumble around. The bag you already own should be fine and maybe you can get one of the smush-able totes in case you purchase something larger. I took clothes with pockets (like zippered cargo pants) which I found preferable to a wallet and the worry about it. In your case, with it being spring, maybe you can use good jacket or fleece vest pockets in lieu of a purse. I only ever carried: the day's money, a charge card, license and health insurance card, a little card with all the hotel #s and emergency contact info and a calling card- not very much to fit in a secure pocket. Also, if you are staying in hotels, most of them should have room safes and you can keep your passport, tickets, moneybelt items in that during the day, which would eliminate the security pouch altogether.
Karen
Seattle, WA USA Sun 10/30/2005
I will be going to Italy (first time) for 2 weeks this spring and I am confused about what type of purse, etc. to carry during the day. I'm thinking I'll get one of Rick's neck pouches (I hate things around my middle) for the security of passport, etc., but do I then also carry some sort of purse or tote around to haul whatever I might need during the day? I have a Healthy Back Bag that could double as a purse (holding just that day's $$ in a small wallet or coin purse). I keep thinking, I might want to stow a jacket, carry an umbrella, camera, would need someplace to put the stuff I buy, etc. so I don't have bags hanging all over me.
I don't want to appear too touristy, but I also want to have some sort of 'bag' with me during the day.
Any hints and all comments greatly appreciated; thanks!
Margaret
USA Sun 10/30/2005
The advantages of a backpack
If your planning on only seeing the major cities a a rolling suitcase is the way to go. However it is really only suited for simple paved roads and is mainly akward to get around.
The two main advantages of a backpack are that you can go over practically any terran, and it automatically limits the ammount your willing to carry. This tends to cancel out the "do I really need that" impulse we all get when preparing for an unknown adventure. As soon as you have to carry it on your back the necessity of having the extra 5 pounds of summer clothing for a spring trip just doesnt seem so necessary.
nik <email>
seattle, wa USA Sat 10/29/2005
Paris in May
Ann,
I have gone to Paris many times in Paris (never been to Prague) and the weather can be between the 60's and the 80's. I always have layers and leave room so I can buy clothes there! If I expect it to be warm, it is always cooler and if I expect it to be cool, it is always warmer. Have fun!
Maia <email>
Chapel Hill, NC USA Thu 10/27/2005
Re: Paris and Prague
Ann, those are my 2 favorite cities-- only been to Prague once but currently planning my 6th trip to Paris. Email me if you want to meet in NYC bookstores to share ideas and/or travel books.
Fiona <email>
NYC, NY USA Wed 10/26/2005
Paris & Prague
I am going to Paris and Prague the last two weeks in May 2006. I am a single woman traveling with the Rick Steves tours. Does anyone have any suggestions on what clothes to bring? Has anyone gone to these two cities during that time of year and could tell me how the weather may be at that time in late May?
Ann
Staten Island , NY USA Wed 10/26/2005
weight and size
From reading these last few posts, the Rick wheelie sounds pretty good! I've looked at the luggage in Sears and their carryons are so heavy to begin with. I would like to know how much the Rick wheelie weighs once it is packed reasonably full. And, can you get the thing into the luggage sizers at the airports....that's my main concern. I've held off on getting a Rick wheelie bag as I'm not sure about things like weight and size...if they'd put more info like that on the RS website, it would help a lot.
I know they are getting stricter about size as when we were boarding in Manchester, a ticket person came up to the boarding gate door with a sizer and made sure everyone getting on was able to fit their stuff inside it...this was after going through the check in counter miles away! I know some people try to 'compact' themselves to get through the check in then 'expand' themselves again once they get to their gate...I think the airlines are picking up on that...plus there's all the stuff you can buy at the stores once you're through security that will add pounds to your load!!!
Leslie
WA USA Tue 10/25/2005
cubs/folders/
First of all we were gone for a month and I think we did pretty good for packing light. I now know we could have reduced the load slightly but overall it was not too bad.
But what I have learnt is that for shorter trips I will now be able to pack much much lighter.
We used packing cubes and I swear by them. They organize your clothes and by rollling your clothes up and using these it reduces wrinkles. Also bought an eagle creek pack it folder and that was perfect for dress clothes. I would never travel with out these items again.
They were very helpful!!
bluedenim
Tue 10/25/2005
Pack Light...Rick is right.
I bought a Rick Steves wheeled suitcase and once I started packing I thought he was nuts. There was no way I could get the stuff I needed for a month away into that thing. Because I started packing at 10pm at night, I had no other choice so I eliminated and discarded all sorts of necessitites and finally, two hours later, I was able to zip the thing closed. It was stuffed full and it was heavy too.
One Italian train ride later, I shipped a bunch of the stuff home and tossed a bunch of other stuff. It was significantly lighter and easier to manage and I was a much happier traveler.
My big lesson? Don't pack like a mom for every eventuality...trust that almost everything you might need is available any place in Western Europe and keep your load light and easy to pack.
Karan
Olympia, WA USA Tue 10/25/2005
RS's Back Door, Wheeled, Veloce Bags in action
I've loved my Back Door Bag for ten years, and never really considered a wheeled bag until a couple of friends raved about them earlier this year. I finally bit the bullet and ordered one, and promptly didn't think I liked it. Primarily, the hard sides made it more difficult for me to fit things in exactly the same process I've used in the past, and I felt like I was having to accomodate my things to the bag rather than the bag accomodating to me.
(This is the reason why I don't like bags with compartments, by the way -- because I find myself arranging and rearranging, trying to figure out how to fit things in. The large open compartments in the regular Back Door Bag and the Wheeled Bag are far superior in my opinion!)
Finally last month I took the wheeled bag on a short trip to LA and tried it out, and here are my thoughts.
I was packing bulkier items than I take to Europe, including a hair dryer and a lot more makeup/grooming items. These bulkier items would have fit in the soft side bag a lot more easily since the sides accomodate bulges. I almost switched over to my old faithful bag, but was determined to give the wheeled bag a try, so kept arranging until I had everything in. (If I'd wanted to unzip and expand it there would have been no probs at all -- but my entire purpose was to fit everything I needed in AND use it as a carryon.)
As usual, I put a few items in my Veloce bag, including my laptop and my small purse. Again, I left it unexpanded so that it would fit into "personal item" guidelines. (I've carried it that way on numerous occasions and have never been questioned about it.)
The RS Wheeled Bag wasn't even given a second look as to size or suitability as a carryon, and as usual my Veloce Bag passed with flying colors. The Wheeled Bag went into the overhead with no problems, and the Veloce bag slid under the seat in front of me so easily that I realized it would have fit even if it had been expanded. (I still would never do that -- I wouldn't risk having somebody decide it was too big and make me check bags I don't want to check!)
My reason for liking the Veloce bag so much as a personal item/laptop case is that I really do prefer the vertical orientation. I find it more comfortable on my shoulder (I'm tall, that may make some difference) and it's less likely to catch onto seats or knock things over if I walk through a tight space.
My friend in LA checked out my bags and now is seriously considering both of them, since she saw how roomy they are, how lightweight, how practical.
My final analysis is that I will still use the old faithful Back Door Bag sometimes, and in many ways I still prefer it. But the fact is that I usually have it on one shoulder and the Veloce on the other, and they DO get heavy. My way of dealing with this is to rest them on the floor beside me when I'm standing in line and hold onto both shoulder straps to keep them in my control. This has always worked out, and also I've been known to get luggage carts to move through airports, so I've always managed to handle the two shoulderbags without much problem. (I also am lucky not to have back problems or shoulder problems to begin with.)
But my experience at the Burbank airport was that one restroom was closed for repairs/remodeling, and it was a longer trek to find one that was operating. Not only was the wheeled bag a breeze to use, but I figured out that I could put my Veloce bag on top of it, wrap the shoulder strap around wheeled bag's handled a couple of times, and not have to carry anything. And not carrying anything or having anything on my shoulders is addictive!
So I think it's a matter of personal preference -- all three bags are great. If you want a wheeled bag I don't think you can go wrong with Rick's. It's really great. And I still love the original bag, as well!
Oh -- one more thing. For storage purposes, I can fit our two original Back Door Bags and all our packing aids (envelopes, zipper bags, mesh bags, toiletry bags, etc. -- most of which we don't even use any more!) into the wheeled bag. Talk about convenient! Everything's in one place, and takes up so little room!
Hope this has been helpful.
Patricia
Dallas, TX USA Tue 10/25/2005
Doing Laundry
Several posters have said they never have problems finding laundromats in Europe and that laundromats are always easy to find.
Beware! In big cities, perhaps. But in smaller cities or towns, or in some other European or non-European countries, you will NOT find laundromats, just like you may or may not find 24-hour convenience stores with freshly brewed coffee any hour of the day and night.
We usually ask around for advice from the local people, but sometimes no matter what you do, you won't find the laundromat of your dreams (Apeldoorn, Netherlands showed one in the directory, but we found out it had closed down when we got there - the public library info lady despaired of finding others!). University towns are easier and many hostels usually have small laundromats within or can help find one nearby.
As for other countries - some have lots of laundries, others few. So be prepared!
Tallahassee, FL USA Mon 10/24/2005
Tricks for Packing Light
In my mid 40's, I no longer use large backpacks for travel. I want to protect the health of my back as I age.
I go to Hawaii from NYC about every other year. I use a Delsey pullman 26 inches. It worked for 1 month in Hawaii, 3 islands. Two years ago I used its little sister the Delsey 20 inch with a carry on tote to Florence for one week. It can be touch and go on the cobble stone streets but my back can not even handle the carryon tote for too long. Pulling the tote on top of your rolling luggage can save you from back pain the following day.
Backpack or Pullman: Walk around your neighborhood block a couple of times with all the bags you plan to take full, this will curb any needs to pack heavy.
Aloha!
Hanalei
NYC, NY USA Sun 10/23/2005
Lessons I've Learned...
...about packing after two trips to Europe.
1) Pick a good bag. Think backpack with waist belt and support, or a rolling suitcase with wide wheels that seem sturdy. I took the latter on my first trip and it worked fine. I took the backpack on my second trip and I'll be using it when I go again. Lugging a suitcase (even a rolling one) can get tiring after a short while, especially if you are tall. I found a backpack molded with my body and I was able to carry it around for several hours in Italian heat with only mild discomfort (most of which was frustration at not being able to find my hotel).
2) Pack as few clothes as possible. There are laundromats everywhere. Seriously. I always found one within walking distance of my hostel when I needed one except in Venice when I had to take a vaporetto.
3) Make sure you pack sturdy clothes if you're packing light. Near the end of my second month-long trip, my two pairs of slacks were in shreds. I had to call my mom up and have her bring me jeans when she came to pick me up at the airport. Next time I'll be packing a pair of dark jeans that I know will last the trip so I won't have that problem (or maybe an extra pair of slacks).
4) If you don't do it at home, you probably won't do it on the road. The first trip I packed several skirts and dresses. I wore them, but I always felt awkward because I never wear them at home. Likewise, I packed a journal the second time I went. Nice thought, but I was too busy doing other stuff to write it in it most of the time. Next time I'll just use postcards to myself or something.
Nicole H.
Seattle, WA USA Sat 10/22/2005
Carry it on your back!
The one thing that has worked for me every trip to Europe, has been a carry on size bag that converts to a backpack.
Ease of use getting on and off trains, walking through crowds, etc. nothing beats a daypack! if you have back problems, this is not a solution for you, but if you are healthy and can carry about 20lbs on your back, this really frees you up to travel light!
I use the Eagle Creek ORV trunk. it looks like a very nice piece of luggage, carries a lot of stuff, has great compartments that adjust with your style of packing. it's fairly lightweight. Has a padded back. The backpack straps tuck away in their own zippered compartment. This is not like carrying an internal frame pack!
If you limit yourself to what you can comfortably carry on your back...then you are packing light!
Keep in mind, this is not for long hikes...this is for getting your luggage through the airport quickly (without rolling over anyone's toes!) and for those walks from the train station to your hotel and back.
Baglady <email>
CO USA Thu 10/20/2005
Aside from all the practical considerations under discussion, I noticed after my month- long Italian trip (first time with only a carry- on) that it really was also liberating to have less choice: wear what was cleanest that day, be dressed and out the door to the day's adventure. I agree about the boring aspect as the weeks went by, though- I think the idea of picking up accessories along the way is a great solution! Thank you!
Susan
USA Tue 10/18/2005
Packed light for Italy
Another report from another happy light packer after 2 weeks in Italy! I'm not strong enough to haul around a bakpack, so I carried-on a 19" wheelie bag and packed a collapsible bag for day trips and to hold souvenirs. I packed:
- 2 skirts, a pair of pants, a pair of capris
- 7 tops (less would have been fine, but I had space), a turtleneck (added a warm layer a couple of nights) and a tank top (not needed as weather was not hot)
- 1 cardigan, denim jacket, light-weight (nice looking) rain coat, a pashmina (and bought a pretty one on the trip)
- an extra pair of shoes (sandals, but should have had boots instead for the weather), a tiny purse (kept valuables in a money belt), an umbrella
- PJs, undies, socks & tights
- plus basic toiletries & make-up.
I easily navigated stairs, trains, subways and city streets with everything in my little wheelie suitcase (about 20 lbs total). But I gave in to temptation near the end of the trip and bought a few too many heavy/bulky souvenirs. Thank goodness for a good-hearted husband who was willing to carry my extras!
Canada Tue 10/18/2005
More Different, Less of the Same
After a 2 month trek through Europe last summer I only had one regret: more variety in my clothing! I definitely packed light, but packed too much of the "same" (2 of the same t-shirt, 3 of the same tank top, 2 skirts etc.). I can't tell you how many times I wished for just one sundress and a "fun" top. I bought a paschmina in Madrid and was able to spice up outfits with that--I even concocted a top out of it for an evening out in Rome! Lastly, I wish I had brought a nicer pair of comfortable but somewhat dressy sandals and a small bag for evening. Oh...and a bit of make up is definitely ok...when I was wearing the same outfit for the 25th time I was glad to have a bit of lip stick and mascara! Especially in Paris. Thanks, Rick, for a FABULOUS trip!!!
Leslie <email>
Waco, TX USA Mon 10/17/2005
tricks for packing light
while it's nice to not have to pack around a whole tome on your country destination, rick's advice to take photocoopies or selected removed pages does have a drawback or two. A) photocopies are much easier to lose, and B) should your itinerary suddenly open up to free days, you are missing your only decent english language source of information about your travel alternatives! plus, english travel guides are next to impossible to acquire abroad!!
Susan Low
Vancouver, BC Canada Sun 10/16/2005
PACKING AND ORGANIZING
I've switched from zip-lock bags to mesh laundry-type bags for packing and organizing suitcase contents. Mesh bags are environmentally friendly, are flexible and lightweight, and can be used just about forever. While mesh bags are not as see-through, I gladly sacrifice that in order to reduce the amount of plastic blighting our planet. I do carry a few Ziplocs for emergencies.
Alice <email>
St Paul, MN USA Sun 10/16/2005
Just returned from a month long trip
I just spent a month in Europe and brought one 21" roller bag and a Rick Steves backpack. I packed for hot (Italy) weather and cold (Germany, Netherlands) weather by bringing layers. I brought one lined black blazer style jacket and a black cardigan sweater which both went with everything. I did bring 3 pairs of shoes (Dansko clogs, tennis shoes and Tevas) but wore them all multiple times and was VERY glad I had options with the varied weather and activities I did.
Lisa Simonsen <email>
Napa, CA USA Fri 10/14/2005
Rick's new bag Avanti
p.s. great news about the new Avanti flight bag on Rick's site. I think it may just be what I'm looking for! If anyone has tried it let me know what you think!
Leslie
WA USA Thu 10/13/2005
SHOES: 1 or 2 pairs?
Word of caution: One pair of shoes sounds like a great idea in terms of packing. But not so great if they get wet or very muddy and you have nothing else to wear!
If your feet require anything other than a standard shoe in a standard size and width, you may be in for a rude surprise trying to buy another pair of shoes in other countries. In some it's not a problem, but in others it could be, especially if you are a woman and wear a 10WW - you may have to settle for men's shoes for the duration of your trip (true story).
FL USA Thu 10/13/2005
My thoughts
One of the things I find helps me curb my heavy packitis is just wearing a so-called 'uniform' SOunds dull, but you aren't questioning what to wear everyday and who cares if someone sees you two or three times in the same thing. I find bringing darker colours hide dirt best. I wear a pair of cargo pants and bring a couple more with me. They serve two purposes, extra storage in pockets and they are lighter and more comfortable than jeans. I choose a t-shirt colour such as navy or royal blue and bring 5-6. Though it's not always possible, I also try to bring darker undy-wear. That way, I don't have to worry about seperating my laundry out from dark and whites and only have to do one load. Believe me, I don't go around looking like a goth, I do look presentable, colourful and dress with ease everyday. I can then focus all my energies to my travels. As for shoes, I always bring an extra pair for Europe such as sandals. Domestic travel, I just wear one pair shoes. For long walks, city hiking and touring around by foot I find Adidas running shoes (Supernova) with insoles the best for my feet, otherwise my feet get sore very fast.
A sweater of some kind is always a good idea as it can get cool unexpectly and it can always be used for a pillow or place to sit on grass. Happy travels!
Leslie
WA USA Thu 10/13/2005
Packing light
I applaud Rick for encouraging us to pack as light as possible. I made it through Village Italy (17 days) total in a carry-on and a back pack. I took older underthings and discarded them along the way, otherwise I took good clothes. I want to share that I did pack wrong though after months of planning. At the last minute I doubted my judgment and went with too many things that would layer and took out most of my knit things which would have worked much better. In the end, my husband and I had to buy a duffle, fill it with our dirty clothes (we did not go to a laundry) and check the bag so we could get our souvenirs (shopping happened) in our carry-on for protection. Our duffle arrived home one day after we did. So the advice to lay your clothes out, then remove half before you pack is a good idea. Only took one pair of shoes to save room, which was a mistake. Two would have been better. Took too many toiletries for a carry-on type trip. Didn't take enough long sleeved things as the weather was cool in the evenings and early mornings. But I will continue to travel "light" from now on. Made the trip much more enjoyable for my husband who didn't have to hand all our luggage on this trip. I could well handle my own.
Gayle Wehrli <email>
St Charles, MO USA Thu 10/13/2005
Packing Light
I spent 9 days in Great Britain this year and only took a small carry on. It was my 4th trip to Europe and each time I've taken less.This was my first trip with just one bag and it was a freeing experience. But I love to shop while traveling and found my solution was a cheap folding duffle bag I took with me in the bottom of my carry on. I filled it with clothes on the way home and saved my carry on for my purchases. After I got to security at the airport for the trip home, I "locked" the zipper with an electrician's tie I fished out of the gutter under my hotel window. This way I didn't have to worry about the zipper coming undone on the trip home and it could easily be cut if security decided to look in the bag after it was checked. Next year I'll take a couple of ties with me. RS advice about cutting up his books is great - no need to carry the whole book on the trip& just took the needed chapter each day. Also Shout wipes & individual hand wipes are great.I didn't regret anything I didn't take with me and will cut down even further for my trip to Italy next year.
TWalker
Lexington, NC USA Wed 10/12/2005
Packing Light
Packing light is the only way to go. I went to Japan for 2 weeks and everything (even the homemade cookies and peanut brittle for my Navy son) fit in a carry on. It was so easy to get from the plane to the train (well, except the long line for immigration). I never take pack more than 3 pair of pants(1 jeans 2 slacks and I wear jeans on the plane), 6 tops, 6 undies and 6 socks. Every country I have visited has running water....so I wash as I go. Of course, I usually have to buy a bag to bring back souvenirs!
Ann
CA USA Wed 10/12/2005
One more thing for the list!
Wow- that's helpful and impressive! But, I would add my excellent RX zip-lock bag for any trip away from home, even in the US. In a medium- sized bag I take: a digital thermometer with covers, small topical first aid tube, small anti- itch cream, assortment of bigger bandaids and blister ones (I keep just a small pre-packaged first aid kit in my day bag), rolled gauze and tape, travel sized duct tape (from TravelSmith) and-I open the box and take just the flat foil packages of anti- diarrhea pills, ditto for some sinus headache tablets, and a few of the travel tubes (like Di) of Tylenol/Motrin. Lastly, I talk our HMO into a 10- day supply of generic penicillin. All this gets zipped shut and fits flat in the bottom of my carry-on, where hopefully I'll never need any of it! Once it's put together you just need to remember to occasionally rotate the perishables in and out, depending how often you travel. Safe travels!
USA Tue 10/11/2005
Euro Fall/Spring packing list
Prescriptions: downsized & labeled by pharmacist.
Vitamins: same as above.
Travel vial of tylenol and tylenol pm which is my sleep aide.
Homemade travel journal/guidebook made from a leather 5" x 7" (3) ring binder:
Journal section has lined writing pages amd wriitng pen. There are 2-3 clear ziplock pages for ticket stubs, postcards, momentos I want to keep.
Travel section has photocopied maps, pages I need from guidebook(s). It has a suggested daily itinerary with opening/closing - days/times, a suggested list for dining & shopping, a contact list for home-travel-bank-cc companies. It has a sleeve of selfaddressed return labels and a sleeve of family/friends addresses for mailing.
Inside the front/back binder covers I store my city map & language guide until I get to my destination.
Hotel style-special events I add:
1 black dress length 48" to knees,
1 mini evening purse,
travel alarm clock,
1 kneelength, shoulder covered, coverup with bathing suit and flip flops.
Wardrobe/travel accessories/laundry:
My clothing is an investment. I use it only for travel/vacation purposes. Everything can be hand washed and will dry overnight. I use Tilleys, Travelsmith, Rick Steves, LLBean.
Laundry:
RS clothesline, mini microfiber towel, sink stopper, mini febreeze bottle.
Do laundry prn and I send out prn.
Luggage/accessories:
I wear a black, leather, waterproof, purse/shoulder bag. It has a steel cable inside the shoulder strap. No one can knife it off and run away with it. It is also used as my every day bag.
I love and use my 'RS' wheeled bag with packing cubes and mesh bags. The additional 2" is a blessing on return flight home.
I pack a 'RS' zippered stowaway bag. I use it for shopping, picnics, sidetrips, laundry and carrying purchases home.
Safety:
'RS' key ring, TSA locks for luggage after it is screened, flexi locks for trains & buses, whistle, silk money belt, and mini flashlight.
Plane comfort and hotel sleep:
Eye shades, neck rest, ear plugs, paperback.
Paperwork:
Photocopies of all travel documents, contacts, etc store (1) in my purse, (1) deep inside my luggage (1) in my travel journal/guide.
Small digital camera or disposables.
My splurge is skin/facial care.
Total weight I carry on my shoulder is under 5 lbs.
Total weight I wheel, lift, carry up stairs is 20 pds or less.
Since I have discovered Rick Steves, my entire style and manner of traveling has changed into a more relaxed,lighter mind set.
I sprinkle my own style with his practical advice and materials, add a mix of travel references and voila! Happy Travels.
Di <email>
Boston, USA Tue 10/11/2005
Packing light
I'd like to echo Valerie's comments about packing light. Just returned from our 5th trip to Europe-Provence & French Riviera. As always, my husband and I each took a Rick backpack, and we took 1 Civita daybag. All carryon--no checking luggage. We try to pack lighter each time, and found that we even took too much this trip.
We received the same comment at least 2 or 3 times from flight crews, personnel at the customs desk, and taxi drivers: "don't forget to pick up your luggage at baggage claim." When we'd tell them "this is all we have", they are very shocked and impressed. In fact, our taxi driver in Nice said "you are the first Americans in the 7 years I've been driving taxis that have only had 1 bag each!"
Packing light definitely helps you stay more mobile on the trains and shuttle buses, and walking up all the stairs and hills you'll encounter on your European travels. Pack light-you won't regret it. If you happen to forget something, just get it there.
Lori Hopp
Rocky River, OH USA Mon 10/10/2005
Traveling Light
I have been on many international trips and have several times taken teen-age girls on 2 month trips. They are only allowed one cary on size bag, usually with wheels, and one day pack, similar to a school back pack. they are able to manage the extended stay and are thankful after the first shock of carrying all their luggage themselves at all times. When they first see the size of their luggage allowance they suffer some denial probelms but they adjust. And these girls are required to have dress clothes with them; dresses, skirts and appropriate shoes. You can only wear one set of clothes at a time. Layering is definately the answer. We usually visit at least 4 different countries and experience several climate changes.
As to carry on or checking, we do check if we have to, but prefer carry on as almost 75% of the time at least one person has had luggage delayed and one time 100% had luggage off loaded at the wrong airport. Waiting a day or two for luggage is a problem if you are moving to another country or area soon after arrival.
Jan
MN USA Mon 10/10/2005
Traveling light
I just returned from a 3-week trip in Germany. I took only Rick's Expandable Wheeled Bag and the Civitat Day Pack. I wish that I had not taken a second pair of shoes. The Propets, complete with orthodics were enough. I also could have left a skirt at home. Even attending services in the largest churches I was comfortable in slacks. Souvenirs had plenty of room as I used the expandable feature on the wheeled bag coming home. The Day Pack was under constant wear & tear & held up beautifully. We traveled by train & that meant a lot of dragging the wheeled bag up & back down again. Upon return home, I examined each bag carefully & did not find one piece of evidence that showed any wear. My companion bought luggage at Wal-Mart and one handle came off the larger bag during the first week! I am an avid reader & found the perfect place to leave the books I'd read. In Nuremberg there is a placed called the Literaturhaus cafe. It is a comfortable place to eat & read at the same time, and you can leave books behind for fellows readers, local or otherwise. Wonderful trip complete with "Chamber of Commerce" weather everywhere we went.
F.J. <email>
Brenham, TX USA Sat 10/08/2005
Digital Camera Batteries
We found buying AA batteries for our digital camera both expensive and a hassle (not to mention in conflict with our domestic modus operandi of using rechargeble). After 2 days, we walked into an electronics store in Venice and bought a charger, 2 sets of batteries for less than our projected rate of spending on batteries. We charged up every night. No worries about electrical plugs or voltage. They are a little bulky, but not heavy. Worth giving space to, especially if you take many flash shots or video clips. We travel only with our Rick Steves carry on bag.
S W & L W Kemp
Bellevue, WA USA Fri 10/07/2005
Packing light for women
I discovered one of my favorite "pack light" items on a trip to Nice last fall. For women, a pashmina-type shawl is extremely versatile. It folds up to nothing, doesn't weigh a thing, is very warm, and can be worn many different ways. On my trip, I used mine as a shawl, a neck scarf with a heavier jacket, a picnic blanket, an airplane blanket, etc. I am travelling to Istanbul in a month, and plan to also use my pashmina as a head covering in mosques.
Watch for these scarves at stores like Marshalls and TJ Maxx. I got mine for $12.
Nikki
Minneapolis, mn USA Thu 10/06/2005
So glad I followed Steve's recommendations on packing light!
I just wanted to share my experience with packing light for a trip my husband and I took to Ireland in July! It was wonderful! I procrastinated too long in ordering Rick's backpacks, so we went to Target and bought backpacks that met Aer Lingus' carry-on requirements, which are quite restrictive. I easily fit a pair of jeans, a pair of khakis, a "waddable" nice blouse and a "waddable" long dress, several T-shirts, a pair of nice sandals, and underthings and boxers for sleeping in there. For toiletries, my husband and I bought travel-sized anti-perspirant, toothpaste, and shampoo each. Our trip was only for 10 days, so they lasted nicely. We could have repeated the cycle as often as needed for a longer trip. We brought a full-sized bar of soap, and got disposable razors when we got there. When we left, all we had to do was throw away the remnants and take one travel tube of toothpaste for the flight home. I'm pretty low-maintenance cosmetic-wise, but I threw in a tube of mascara and lipstick and was good to go! We also fit electronic games and paperbacks into the pack as well.
We dropped our laundry off at a neighborhood laundromat halfway through the trip, and that was it. We also packed knowing that we were going to buy warmer clothing there. We ended up buying some gifts and some sweaters and sweatshirts. We found that on the return trip home everything we had acquired fit into two large paper store bags with handles. We didn't have any problem with those being our "one personal item" on the way home. If we were on a longer trip, we would have mailed stuff home when we had accumulated it like that, but it worked for this trip.
For me, the coolest part of packing so light was when we ended up waiting on a tram at the Chicago airport with our flight crew from London! One of the attendants asked us if we were aware that we had to get our luggage before continuing, and we said that we had all our luggage. Another one said, "You survived on THAT in Europe"?, and they were all impressed. It was also kind of neat when taxi drivers would ask if that was all our luggage when we tossed our backpacks in the trunk! I would never travel with anything more again! It was so stress-free and relaxing!
Valerie McMullen
Fayetteville, AR USA Thu 10/06/2005
A few tips
I agree with Emily. When I travel, I take my makeup when I go to Paris. I personally feel "naked" without it. I don't take a whole lot: in addition to Cover Girl foundation, I take some mark cosmetics. Mark is a line by Avon directed at younger women, but they have some good things for all ages. I have the Face Case which is a very flat and thin box with eye shadow and blush and a makeup brush. Takes up virtually no room at all. They also have these "Hook ups" which are small tubes of lip gloss and mascara that you can hook to one another. Other than those items, I take a small thin eyeliner. I don't normally wear mascara, but the lip gloss is good since I hate lipstick.
I get the small plastic bottles in the travel section of Wal-Mart and other fine discount stores. I fill these with conditioner, shampoo, body soap and facial wash. Then at the end of the trip, I throw them away. It frees up some space for souvenirs. If you want to bring makeup remover cloths, some brands offer travel packs which are small packets of 10 or so cloths. They take as much room as maybe a pair of underwear.
I also second the tip about placing a dryer sheet in your luggage to keep your clothes smelling fresh as a daisy.
Brandie <email>
KS USA Wed 10/05/2005
Tips for those motorcycling
We just got back from a 2 week trip on motorcycles through the Czech Republic, Austria and Germany. Obviously we needed to pack light. Here is what we learned:
Take 2 duffle bags, one for riding gear and your helmet, one for everything else. Bungee the bags onto the bike in the passenger position. If you are riding two up then you really must pack light! Transfer the stuff you will use only while on the bike (cable lock, rain gear, etc.) into the side cases. Take a duffle bag with what you need into the hotel and leave the side cases on the bike. Decline to rent a separate top case. Use that area to bungee on duffle bags which hold more.
You do not need waterproof duffle bags. Get water resistant ones and put trash bags inside the compartments with your stuff inside. This kept our stuff dry in monsoon type downpours.
Get a tank bag and keep your maps and things you will need while on the bike in that. Take it into the hotel at night.
Look at the weather before you leave. If daytime tenps will reach 60 deg or higher it is best to take mesh (blow through) riding gear and use your rain gear/removable layers if it gets colder or in the morning. We were way too overdressed with warm waterproof jackets and overpants! Forget the leathers -- they are bulky, heavy and hot. Armored, abrasion resistant textile clothing is lightweight.
Be sure to take ALL over the counter/prescription drugs you might need. A trip to the apothekary is the only way to get things like Tums in the countries we visited and it gets expensive! We paid E7 for a roll of antacids. To save space take the pills out of the cardboard boxes and put them in small zip lock bags. Keep prescription drugs in their original containers so there is no question about their origin or use.
Pare down your toiletries to the bare minimum. Electric razor? No, use a blade and save space. Get travel size toothpaste, etc. Take liquid soap in a squeeze bottle. If you must have a hair dryer get a VERY small one that works on 120/240 volts.
Take fewer clothes. Take long sleeved and short sleeved t-shirts, one thin sweater and thin long johns. It is amazing how layering will keep you warm. Take one shirt that is presentable for nice dining, etc. Take dark pants, black jeans work well. They do not show the dirt and are presentable to fashion concious Europeans. Either dispose of underwear as you go or simply do wash in the sink each day. I have dried socks and underwear by bungeeing them to the bike. They blow dry! Take your riding boots but make sure they are well broken in if you plan to do walking tours. Alternatively take a pair of lightweight broken in walking shoes.
Take a very small tool kit. You probably know the bike you will rent. Think through what might break down. Usually the worst is a flat tire. Carry a variety of sheet metal screws (1-1/4" works well) and some rubber cement to act as a temporary screw in tire plug to get you to the next service station. You will also need CO2 cartridges to fill up the tire.
Keep the shiny side up!
Gael
Charlotte, NC USA Tue 10/04/2005
Travel tips :)
Hi :) Just thought I'd add my comments-- My husband and I (we're 20 & 21 so I know how difficult it can be!) just returned from London and Paris for 10 days, and we each only took one bag (mine was a rolling backpack, his was a regular backpack).
**The thing that saved us THE MOST was Rick's space bags! We fit SO much clothes inside the bags, that I didn't even get a chance to wear half of them! I know I shouldn't have packed that much, but I just wanted to illustrate that the space bags were worth every penny.
**We also bought his toiletry (sp?) bag and we shared it. It's amazing how much we could fit in there!
**We bought travel shampoo, because we knew if we ran out we could just go to the store to get more, and we brought a first aid kit, medicine, make-up, etc... and it all fit in his toiletry bag.
**We also only packed one versatile coat. (Mine was a fleece rain proof North Face coat that folds easily and does double duty, and my husband had the same one.
**We also only packed one umbrella and shared all the time.
**Also, just another tip, I put one scented dryer sheet in my bag and it made my clothes smell fresh the whole time. We didn't even need to go to the laudromat!
**Oh yes, one more thing-- someone gave me this tip earlier-- if you have any old pairs of underwear or clothing that you've wanted to get rid of for awhile, bring them on your trip and just throw them away when you're done! I did this with several pairs of underwear that I had accumulated over the years that I knew I needed to get rid of, and just threw them away each day. It saved room, and I got my use out of them!
Megan <email>
Hillsboro, Oregon USA Sat 10/01/2005
Extra Bag
There are so many comments here that I don't know if this has been mentioned or not. My husband and I picked up a very cheap backpack from our local Wal-Mart during the Back to School clearance sales. (I think we paid $2.15). We were only allowed two carry on pieces on our flight so we rolled this extra bag up into our luggage. We used this backpack every day on our trip. It lightened the load from our other bags as we traveled between countries and worked beautifully as a day bag. We took turns carrying it and used it for carrying souvenirs, a change of socks each (very important if it rains...), a small first aid kit and still had room for picnic items. At the end of our trip we emptied the bag and left it in our B&B with a note that the staff should give it away to a needy student. The bag was still in very good shape, but had served it's purpose for us and we did not have room to take it home. I highly recommened this.
And also, "disposable" clothes. I know this has been mentioned before, but I can't agree more. Save up your holey underwear and those shirts you never wear and take them along. Throw them or give them away to make room for souvenirs.
Shelly
Frederick, MD USA Fri 09/30/2005
Solve the small bottle thing for good.
Anyone who has ever backpacked should be familar with the NALGENE bottles.
Nalgene, just put the word in google,and you will see a variety of spill proof small clear or translucent bottles from 1 Oz to 16 Oz sizes. They are great and your better outdoor fitness store should have them or can order for customers.
Sometime the small bottles are sold in a set, as REI use to market them that way.
Look for them in their kitchen items section and or pack it along section.
Bill
Bandon, Or. USA Fri 09/30/2005
Books on trips
Tara, is there a reason you didn't send (mail) the books back to yourself? That's if you wanted to keep them. No need to buy the books again when you got home. Unless the cost of buying them is much less than the cost of mailing them. But if the country you are in has a Book Rate it would not be too expesive. I think.
Sharon R. Johnson
Lincoln, Nebraska USA Thu 09/29/2005
I didn't want to carry Rick Steves book with us everyday while we were in Italy, so I copied the map of each city we would be in wrote the highlights of the city on the back of the copy and also stapled the confirmation for the hotel with it and just put that in my day bag. I did bring the Italy 2005 book with just for reference and kept it in my suitcase. I also wrote down the directions from the train station to each of our hotels on my map.
Jan <email>
eden prairie, Mn USA Wed 09/28/2005
Books on a trip
Reading Tara's post below, I notice that she said she "threw" her books away. I have noticed that several hotels I have stayed in in Europe have a "library" I usually make sure to leave my books there for the next traveler to enjoy.
So - I'd say if you enjoy reading on vacation, like I love to do...take your books (paperback perfered) and ask at the hotel if it has a lobby area that has books, then leave your read books there...Recycle, reuse!
OR, you could offer your read books to another traveler while you are on trains/buses. It's pretty darn easy to pick out the american, or British traveler. I'm sure one of them would love to have a new book to read and pass on!
USA Wed 09/28/2005
Less clothes, more room for souvenirs
I went to Ireland this summer and realized that even though I had only one carry-on suitcase and a back-pack for a two week trip, I had overpacked! I had a pair of jeans and a couple of shirts that I never wore. I really am a firm believer in the "don't bring it if you aren't going to wear it three times" rule (with the exceptions of underwear and socks). But also, Ireland was nice and cool so I hardly ever broke a sweat:)
For shoes, I was fine with a pair of comfy tennis shoes and a pair of flip-flops for wandering the hotel and going to the pubs/ATM/corner store.
I did have a drink spill on my favorite jeans, so I spent 8 Euros for having the hotel wash them. That seemed like the average price at most hotels for jeans and about 12-14 Euros for one load. I am really happy that I had the hotel do my wash since I was too busy seeing the sites to want to site in a laundry mat. So err on the side of less clothes with the idea that you can have the hotel wash a load for you if you have a two (or more) night stay.
Also, think about the things you will buy and want to bring back home. I bought a couple sweaters in Ireland, something I had not taken into account when packing at home. Another reason to err on the side of less clothes- it is fun to pick up souvenir clothes. I should have only packed my suitcase 2/3rd's full to leave room for the things I bought on my trip.
I also had to throw away books to make room for my souvenirs since the 3 thick books took up so much room. In the future, I will bring only one book and just buy National Geographics or the Economist for something interesting to read if I need a change, that way you don't have the guilt or high cost of throwing away good books.
Tara
San Francisco, CA USA Tue 09/27/2005
Back Door Bags
I've never used the BDB as a backpack, but have always used it as a shoulder bag with great success. If one shoulder gets tired, I shift it to the other.
Because it's softsided and has FABULOUS zippers (very strong) it will actually hold more than the wheeled bag, which comes in handy when I start stuffing in souvenirs to bring home.
I purchased a wheeled bag when it was on sale but have yet to use it. I'll be making another trip in November and haven't decided yet whether to use the wheeled or stick with my old faithful original bag.
I loaned the wheel bag to a friend who went on a trans-Atlantic cruise, around the Mediterranean and then spent a week in Rome. She loved it and immediately ordered one of her own.
I think the original bag will be my favorite as long as I can carry it (which should be a very long time) but I can see the benefit of the wheeled bag for those who would rather pull it. It's hard to go wrong either way.
USA Sun 09/25/2005
Which Rick Steve's bag to buy?
Thanks for pointing out the weight differential on the wheeled vs. carry. I'm buying this bag for European/overseas travel so I think I'll stick with the non-wheeled one.
For $99 I don't think I can go wrong.
dan <email>
USA Sun 09/25/2005
Dan - Which bag
Dan, it's a personal thing. If you are in good shape and can manage to carry your own luggage, then go with the bag without wheels. If on the other hand, you have an issue always carrying your stuff, but the wheeled version. I perfer to carry my stuff on my back. I have an Eagle Creek ORV trunk, it converts from a carried bag to a backpack with hidden straps. Love it! Carry on size, yet very very roomy. Used it for a 2 week trip this May. Wonderful organization with added packing cubes!
Suzie
USA Sat 09/24/2005
Dan, I'd go with the backpack
I've used the Rick Steves backpack for several years now, and I highly recommend it. Now that I've added packing cubes to it, it's easy to live out of for a long time and still have the contents well organized. And not having to check the bag is a major plus. However, check with your airline regarding the carryon weight limit. When I flew on Alitalia two years ago, they didn't even weigh my carryon backpack, but I've heard that Alitalia has become one of the tougher major carriers regarding maximum weight for carryons. If you find that you can't live within their weight restriction, you might as well go with the rolling case.
JER
USA Sat 09/24/2005
Packing for munchkins
I'm a confirmed believer in packing light, but when my daughter and I travelled for 2 1/2 weeks through Spain and Portugal with her two small children, we may have underpacked. We had a wonderful time, but less of it could have been spent washing clothes for the kiddies. (They spill food a lot, one of them went head-first into a fountain in Lisbon, and on one bus ride they both threw up!) Children's clothing takes up very little space, so toss in several more T-shirts, pants and socks for each child than you think you'll need.
Marilynn <email>
Willits, CA USA Thu 09/22/2005
I really want to pack light!
Hi there,
This board is one of the greatest things invented for the packing light mentality. I just love reading the tips other people have. I must admit I get excited when I start to pack as I know I'm going on a trip. Sometimes I begin a week in advance, but lately, with so much going on, I tend to pack the night before and get completely stressed because I'm one of those people who says, 'what if I need this?' By reading this board over and over, I know I can pare down my packing items. However, I am probably going to have to really look at what I pack everything in as I have old luggage (big old duffle bag from Eddie bauer) and it's like a cavern. So, I guess what I should be doing is getting a smaller bag like Rick's backpack and therefore I won't be able to pack as much. Our trip to England/Wales and Scotland this last summer was absolutely wonderful and we took a carry-on bag each and packed two duffle bags. The silliest thing was, we used what was in the carry-on and left the two duffles in the trunk of the car untouched most of the time. Only when we needed another pair of pants (mainly because of being stained) did we rifle through the duffle bags and get them. It was a sign that we could manage with less!! I wore the same jeans for 7 days, sounds like a lot, but we were sightseeing galore and didn't have to dress up or see anyone. I packed three jeans and wore two, plus a nice pair of pants I never wore. 5 long sleeve, wore 4, 2 t-shirts (wish I'd brought more so bought more at Marks and Spencer) and 10 socks, 10 undies each. Didn't need all the socks. We have great rain gear that is light, only used it a few times. Washclothes are a must, for some reason, they don't believe in them over there! Ziplock bags are a must too, I didn't bring enough, you can store used soap, wet washclothes, food, leaky things etc. We did all of Wales in a car and loved it. I would buy capri's but they always look better with sandals or flip flops and I have to wear good shoes and thick socks (Adidas Supernova) as my feet get tired easily when trekking around the ruins. The only thing I have a concern about is having to wash the undies out in the sink. I think I would bring enough to last the trip, but certainly less clothing. Our carry-on's basically had two pairs of pants, 3 shirts and enough underwear etc to last 4 days. Each bag weighed about 6kg as I looked at the readout when the ticket agent weighed them, so I could have packed more. The limit was about 10kg.
We also travelled first class as a treat on the way there and were convinced we've been missing the good life!!! It was only an extra $500 each...ouch! Plus you can take more in weight.
I recommend sticking your water bottles and heavy stuff in your jacket pockets or even in a plastic bag as we had our stuff like that in a plastic bag which didn't get weighed, and they were sticky about weighing everything...but coats and plastic bags!
karen
vancouver isl., bc Wed 09/21/2005
Travel with unmarked substances
I flew 2 weeks ago from Cleveland to Gatwick on Gatwick. I had 2 perscriptions (in original packaging) and zip lock bags of fiber, vitamins, calcuim, etc., as well as several leak proof unmarked bottles of shampoo, soap, etc. I had no problems -- I wasn't even searched.
Maybe it depends on the airline and your destination?
Stephanie
Columbus, OH USA Tue 09/20/2005
Repackaging Ideas
A lady below spoke of looking for tiny containers for homeopathic remedies, lotions, etc. Well, many of these products often come in sample/trail sizes, and many herb shops also sell individual bottles for various products.
A word of warning, the rules may have changed yet again, but the last time I flew we could not take on any bottles of pills/liquids that were not in their original containers. Not only prescriptions, but over the counter items as well. So, sample containers of shampoo, lotion, etc with labels may be best. I take the small 24 pc bottle and cram in as many pills as it will hold. That cotton takes up a lot of room that I fill with product.
Many pharmacists will also repackage your prescriptions into a smaller container if you only need a few days or weeks worth with you. This is also a good source of small containers. Perfect time to get a paper copy of your prescription for use in an emergency, and a full list of what you are taking in case of an emergency.
Kimberly <email>
Birmingham, AL USA Mon 09/19/2005
Makeup: surely its not so bad?
I totally respect the ideas of women who say that they prefer to take no cosmetics on a trip to Europe because it is liberating, but I don't agree that a good reason to do it is to save space. Seriously, how much room can they take up? The last thing I'd want to be doing in big fashionable cities like Paris is walking around feeling plain and uncomfortable as gorgeous Parisian women go by. I took some cosmetics to Europe and they weren't a problem at all. Things come really tiny these days too, and sometimes when you go to dinner, or to the theatre you feel just a little bit better with it on, and a little more dressed for the occasion. I think of it as a treat when my choice of clothing is limited.
Emily
Wollongong, N.S.W. Australia Mon 09/19/2005
I know it's a small thing, but I am saying that instead of wearing 2 items of underwear I have eliminated one. The culotte slip is a hybrid between a half slip and underpants.
Arlene
Altoona, PA USA Mon 09/19/2005
Arlene, isn't that the same as not wearing any underwear? I never found underwear to be a hasssel with regards to weight and washing.
Nancy
CA, USA Mon 09/19/2005
Double duty underwear
I like to wear skirts if I'm traveling to a warm place. I always used to wear a half slip under my skirts. Then I got a couple of pairs of what they are calling "short split-skirt slip with lace hem" from the Wintersilks catalog. One day I wondered why I was wearing underpants when these could serve as underpants as well as half slip. Silk washes and dries overnight so now I can cut down on some underwear.
Arlene <email>
Altoona, PA USA Mon 09/19/2005
Take old undergarments and toss them abroad.
I have a box at home that I save all my less than desirable undergarments in. Socks, T-shirts, Boxers, etc. go in there as I decide it is time to save the last few underwear molecules for a trip. Then when we travel, I take these along for the journey. As I wear them, I toss them in the rubbish and make room for the goodies I acquire abroad. Works like a champ and frees up valuable real estate in the case.
Santa <email>
Toronto, ON Canada Mon 09/19/2005
REI haa 2 once bottles for about .85 each...I have four of them - shampoo, conditioner, aftershave, hand cream....works well for me....2 ounces are a good size...!
USA Sun 09/18/2005
Problem Solved!
Some of the greatest tiny travel containers are the contact lens cases with screw-on lids. Perfect!!!
TX USA Sun 09/18/2005
Small Containers for Linda
The containers that bubbles that are given out at weddings in place of rice/birdseed are about the right size for the small amouts of thin liquids that Linda says she needs. All you would need to do is collect some after a wedding, either from the trash can or the other guests. Shops that sell wedding supplies might have them. I have seen them in a small box with six bottles. They come filled but blowing the bubbles could be part of the fun.
Sharon R. Johnson
Lincoln, Nebraska USA Sat 09/17/2005
packing toiletries
Unless you have really specific toiletries you have to take because of allergies I would take Rick's advice and take a small amount and PLAN to run out of something. We just returned from 2 wks. in Germany and one of the fun parts of our trip was trying to figure out what was trying to find the lotion we wanted. We forgot the sunscreen, so then we had to try to explain to the apotheke (pharmacist) that we needed something for sunburn. Word of warning: they do not have lidocaine over-the-counter, nor could we find aloe. Ask for "apres-ski".
Nancy
Vancouver, WA USA Fri 09/16/2005
Tiny containers for Linda
For really, really tiny containers, one great source is the sample sized jars that cosmetic items come in, often as so-called "gifts with purchase." They're perfect for creams and lotions, and, depending on the screw top, also work for thinner liquids. I also swear by the tiny plastic clamshell one-piece containers from Storables. (Linda from Seattle--there is a Storables at University Vilage near the Crate and Barrel...). They have several sizes, and the smallest is about the size of a nickel and the thickness of three stacked nickels. There are larger ones, too, including one the size of a fifty-cent piece and the thickness of four or so stacked coins. I've used them for skins lotions, conditioner, shampoo, and the like. I'm unsure how they'd be for really water-thin liquids. One final suggestion is to go to the cosmetic counters at department stores and ask for containers so you can travel with small amounts of makeup. I got a tiny cylindrical container with screw top(a little over an inch long and about the thickness of a pencil) from the Chanel counter for foundation. It worked fine for that, and now I've recycled it for other things.
JER
Seattle, USA Fri 09/16/2005
Tiny containers?
We're leaving in just a few days for a RS "Village Italy" tour. Planning to travel light, just a carry-on, etc. Last trip was NZ a couple years ago - brought only a small day pack on the plane and checked the rolling convertible backpack/bag. Rolling bag made an unscheduled stopover in Tahiti (without us) and I learned the lesson of making sure to have clothing and other basics in my carry-on, as it took several days before the checked luggage joined us in NZ. Ended up going to a thrift store in Auckland where they gratiously sold me a dress, shoes, 2 shirts and shorts for $10. I donated these back to another shop before returning home (except for the dress, which I still wear!) Interestingly, I found that most of the items in my "lost" suitcase I didn't miss during those 3 days - food for thought. One thing I haven't been able to find: really tiny containers for carrying lotions/liquids (I'm talking way smaller than a film canister). Any suggestions? I want them for homeopathic lotions and other items where I only need a tiny bit of something and don't want to bring the whole tube.
Linda
Seattle, WA USA Fri 09/16/2005
Exactly!
As other family members arrived for a family reunion in Tuscany the lost- luggage horror stories came, too. My group stuck with the carry- on sized only rule, and even though we had already been in Italy for 2 weeks we looked a lot fresher than some of the others who had to waste a day shopping for some clothes after two days on a plane...then, when finally their bags arrived, drive all the way to Pisa, wait for the bags there, drive all the way back...etc. I think it'd be a little more difficult in the winter, with bulkier stuff, but in hot summer climates you sure don't need very much and it all dries so quickly.
USA Fri 09/16/2005
I went on a trip this August to Italy and Germany and wanted to let everyone know it was a success! My mantra was "pack light" and it worked great. I purchased Rick's back pack interchangeable bag and carried it on the plane with my day bag. My two fellow travellers checked theirs on. Bad news - one of my friends luggage didn't arrive when we did! We did eventually get it back but he unfortunately had to tour Milan in his plane outfit. I also bought the packing cubes from Rick and shared them with my sister who accompanied me. What a life saver! Those things can really hold a lot of clothes. I managed to pack everything I needed in Rick's bag, with plenty of extra space for anything I might have picked up along the way. After my 3 weeks I could have very easily carried my luggage on still b/c it had that much room, but chose instead to check it on b/c we were so tired. Everything turned out fine and I am ready for my next trip where I will most definetely be bringing my Rick Steves' back pack and the fabulous packing cubes!
Candace
USA Fri 09/16/2005
Some things that helped me "pack light" for my trip to Italy this summer: I bought the packing cubes from Rick, 1 big and 2 small. I used the 1 big one (which held enough clothes, bras, underwear etc for my 3 week trip) and my sister used the 2 small ones for her clothes. I packed 5 interchangeable outfits 3 bras, 5 pairs of underwear, and 3 pairs of socks(and wished later it was only 4 outfits) and we brought w/ us a small bottle of Tide. Our nightly ritual was to wash our socks and whatever was dirty. This is where a clothes line and clips came in VERY handy! We also bought SHOUT wipes in individual packets (b/c we tend to be messy eaters) and they worked great to remove chocolate, spaghetti sauce, wine etc. We only brought 2 pairs of shoes (1 walking and 1 sandal)
USA Fri 09/16/2005
Cutting back just a little
One thing I've noticed that I've started to do - as a woman who wears make up - is not taking much on vacation. I find that it gives my face a break, I have more time in the morning getting ready to see Paris, etc, and no one cares if I have on blush or not! Like a poster said in the Travel Helpline....no one can tell if you have make up on in photos, so why bother? it will lighten your load too! leave all those beauty products behind if you can live without them for 1-2 weeks, I sure can!
USA Fri 09/16/2005
Jeff's Go Big is Really Packing Light
I notice the comments on Jeff's Go Big posting that were on the wall yesterday have been removed.
Jeff's choice of one large bag and one small bag for car touring is packing light for that method. I know becuase my parents have spent the past two months touring various family and friends in North America in their car with both the truck and the back seat stuffed with stuff. This meant that to take anyone somewhere the back seat had to be unpacked.
But I agree for other types of touring Jeff's method would be packing heavy.
Sharon R. Johnson
Lincoln, Nebraska USA Thu 09/15/2005
Go BIG
I tell you people, after traveling many times to Europe, if you are going for more than two weeks and are not going to sightsee carless and roomless, pack large! After too many times following the bad advise of packing small, I now take one big bag with all the clothes I need for a four week trip and a carry-on school type ruck-sack. I do not have to waste precious hours in Europe looking for (sometimes non-existant) laundry facilities. I take my bag from car (you can't explore the countryside from train!) to the hotel and then explore, or, if parking is far away, I leave my big bag in the car and pack however many days I will be in a town or city in the small bag when I park. Having done both, this is heaven!!!!
Jeff Omalanz-Hood <email>
Seattle, WA USA Tue 09/13/2005
Packing Notes from a Recent Trip to Europe
Just got back from 9 days in Scotland/London/Paris. My husband and I each took one carryon weighing less than 13lbs (Virgin Atlantic carryon requirement). After all of the walking and navigating the Tube/Metro.boy, were we glad we packed light.
I got most of the basic rules of packing from this message board. The people and ideas here are FANTASTIC! Notable rules: (1) Pack for a few days and wash as you go. TEST WASH YOUR CLOTHES BEFORE YOU GO! (2) Select "multi taskers" or things that can perform more than one function. (3) Use "travel size" EVERYTHING. Especially with toiletries.the liquid form of anything is incredibly heavy, so only take what you'll really need. (4) "What if's" are not allowed. If you THINK you MIGHT need it, you don't need it.
Here's some "notables" of what we packed. Main Bag: Campmor Essential Carryon http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=49527&memberId=12500226 We used this bag in the "backpack" configuration for most of the trip, and it was very comfortable. I'm not sure how long it will last.it's very lightweight (a plus), which necessitates using thinner materials and plastic fixtures (a minus). At $30, we felt it was a winner for our trip. It was one of the lightest carry-on bags I could find, a must for my 13lb requirement. Weight 1 lb. 12. oz
Packable Tote: LeSportSac Hideaway Tote http://www.lesportsac.com/store/7822_5202.html I used this as a purse/tote (and I wanted something to stick valuables in, just in case I was over-weight and had to check bags on the way back). Worked great, and was attractive enough for everywhere we went (I wouldn't take it out fine dining, though.it has zippers that hang off the bottom). I loved the fact that the top of the tote zipped to keep pickpockets out of my bag. Weight 4.6 oz.
My Clothes (this included what was on our body, so I wore my "heaviest" items and put the others in the carry-on. Requirements - quick dry, dark, matching, low wrinkle): 3 pairs pants (at least one of these was "convertible", next time I'm going to switch one of them out for a skirt or I might even just take 2 pants). 4-5 shirts 5 pairs