Archive: Anti-Americanism: Reports from Recent Travelers, June 2003
In the wake of the disagreement between some European countries and the US over the war in Iraq, the media has led many Americans to believe they will be treated with hostility when traveling. If you are in Europe now or have recently returned, how were you treated?
Here's what you thought in June 2003:
Living in Europe
As of today, my family and I have lived one whole year in the UK. During this
time we've experienced many different attitudes toward our American citizenship.
There are those who have gone out of their way to be kind. They are a definite
minority. Otherwise, there are those who have treated us like last week's trash,
beginning with the movers who threw our damaged furniture into the house, advising
us that we were lucky this particular town let the truck park. Other towns where
they'd tried to deliver goods for Americans had blocked the delivery and those
Americans had had to live elsewhere.
I'd never heard of anything of this nature on several lengthy trips to the UK in the past, but it has been the same attitude in England particularly, and throughout Scotland where we have since moved. My American children have been accused of "milking" the health system [although their British stepfather has paid taxes here all his life] and told they should go home. My daughter has come home in tears from school numerous times, including the day when an Anti-American rally, complete with defamatory posters, was held at her school in St. Andrews with the apparent sanction of school authorities. One would think that the golf capital of the world who depends so greatly on American tourists would be an exception to such mindlessness.
Eventually, the children stopped visiting at schoolmates' houses as the Iraq situation heated up because the children and parents who invited them couldn't stop lecturing about American politics and Mr. Bush as though my children had direct and influential ties with Washington. In short, it hasn't been the experience we expected.
Nonetheless, we have tried to retain our equanimity and not respond negatively to the rude comments. That would only fulfill their low expectations of Americans and perpetuate the problem. We have since been to Ireland and not encountered anything like this. We were also treated marvelously well in Wales earlier this year. Whatever this phenomenon may be, in our case at least, it seems isolated to the "big island" of England and Scotland. Or maybe it's different because we weren't trying to live in Wales and Ireland.
My older son who most recently has attended school in Barcelona met with no
problems there at all. He tried to speak Spanish to make himeself welcome,
they fell over themselves trying to communicate in English to make him feel
welcome. He had a wonderful time and felt extremely relieved to have the reprieve
from Britain. He did note however, that the Spanish were apparently having
a field day beating up on drunken English tourists on the Ramblas.
Nancy <email>
Scotland, UK 06/29/03
All ok on the green isle
I was nervous about going to Dublin concerning anti americanism, but found none..zero...just
warm fun loving people... so have fun and go Ireland
pete <email>
madison, wi USA 06/28/03
Trip to Paris
I just recently returned from Paris. Since I am a black
american and due to the political climate, in addtion to my not speaking the
language, I must say that I did have some fears about making the trip. Fortunately,my
love of art and science won out. I found the people,the art, the country and the
architecture most rewarding.Since I spent most of my time walking and talking
to people, I feel that I came away with a good idea about how the french people
felt about me and how how I felt about them. I shall never forget this magical
experience. It was all positive.
Walter Culbreth <email>
Trenton, NJ USA 06/27/03
Travel in Spain, France, and Italy
We have recently returned from a month traveling by car through France, Spain,
and Italy. The only times that we were aware of any anti-American sentiments
were when we spotted the rare graffiti, most of which attacked Bush, not Americans.
In a conversation with a couple from the Channel Islands in an historic farmhouse
located in a national park atop a mountain in France, we heard their observations
of Americans' energy waste and their questioning of why the US continues to provide
support to the "Zionists" in light of the terrorist (their words) activities
of the Sharon government. Overall, I'd say that our trip was quite enjoyable
and gave me the impression that Americans are niether more or less important
than the average European.
Russ Gregory <email>
Sunriver, OR USA 06/25/03
"Anti-Americanism"
Over the past year, my wife and I have traveled to Germany, France, and Italy.
(Only Italy after the Iraq war.) We have had no problems at all with anti-Americanism,
much the contrary, we have met some of the nicest, most accomodating, and interesting
people in all three countries. We'd be on the streets of Paris with a map open.
looking like the typical tourist, and people would stop and ask how they could
help. The Italian people were probably the nicest and most hospitable of all.
The Germans were very polite, and would let their guard down and become friendly
after they got to know you. While most of the people we met were anti-Bush (as
are we), they seemed to have no problem separating the people of the United States
from the country's leaders. Treat people with respect and you will be treated
the same, there is a big world out there and it doesn't all revolve around the
U.S.
Ben Hassenger <email>
Haslett, MI USA 06/25/03
Anti-Americanism
After two weeks in France recently the only thing that happened to remind me
there was friction between the two nations was in talking to a restaurant waiter
about a previous American customer worrying about the possible animosity. He
just shrugged his shoulders and blew it off. Like us, they are just trying to
make it through this life the best we can and enjoy it as we can. If our leaders
want to go on a rampage and shake fingers at each other, that's their problem.
Roger Lepley <email>
Los Olivos, CA USA 06/25/03
Negative experiences nothing new
It's always existed. I mean people have always made trouble for themselves,
and also run into people that are annoyed by tourists. I remember once in Italy
a group of irritated locals at a restaurant were waving their hands muttering
'Americano' at a group of German tourists. Judgements on who is Euro or American
increasingly more difficult in this Gap age we live in.
USA 06/25/03
Before the War?
Before the concern of bad treatment due to Anti-Americanism by Europeans came
to everyone's attention due to the media, etc. where did people post their negative
experiences in Europe? I assume they existed before the war? Just wondering.
Cameron
Boston, USA 06/25/03
Budapest Officials Hostile to Americans
My daughter and I were targeted by officials of the Hungarian government for
anti-american slurs and harassment. The police sneered and laughed at us
when we asked for help. When another policeman came up to ask what was going
on, the policeman we were talking to rolled his eyes and said "Americans" with
complete and utter disdain. The other policeman laughed and walked away.
Overall, our experience in Budapest and Hungary was overwhelmingly negative. We left Hungary many days before we had planned because we a.) didn't feel safe there, and b.) were having a lousy time with the attitudes. I talked to my grandmother in Vienna about it afterwards and she said, "they don't like Americans. I told you not to go there." Nothing like "See I told you so" from a Viennese grossmutter! Needless to say, I will not be returning to Hungary.
We had a fabulous time in Austria, Germany, and France. The French people
we encountered in our travels were such wonderful people. I just wish
our government would stop the propaganda bashing them. There's the REAL
problem.
Parsifal001 <email>
Cincinnati, OH USA 06/25/03
generalizations
I am quite amazed about blanket statements about "Europeans" - think about it:
the population of the whole European Union is larger than that of the United
States. Having travelled both in the EU and the US, I think I can say that I
have had bad customer service in both places. As for lazyness, I have worked
in a US company and can certainly attest that not everything was running as well
as it should have if everybody had done his job properly and on time. An important
thing is to to cede to paranoia and assume that every bad treatment you are given
comes from your citizenship. Most of the times, people offering bad service will
offer bad service to all customers; perhaps you will have more trouble than the
others because of language problems, but even locals would have had problems
had there been some other issue. Additionally, don't assume that people can necessarily
tell your citizenship. Most Europeans don't distinguish a Canadian from an American,
and I'm not sure that they would even distinguish them from British people.
Bernard Marmotte <email>
Paris, France 06/24/03
Anti-Americanism
My husband and I just returned from a 3 week trip to France and we have only
good things to say about France and the French people. Many of the French we
encountered were geniunely kind and helpful. We were in the Loire valley, the
Perigord, the Languedoc, Provence, and Paris and we had no problems with anti-Americanism.
We especially enjoyed staying at some chambres D'hotes in the countryside. Some that we stayed at offered dinner and it gave us an opportunity to sit and talk with French guests. Each night that we came to dinner they seemed to open up more and more to us. They would become less formal and begin to ask more questions. They would offer many helpful suggestions of places we should not miss on our trip, foods to try, wines to sample, etc...
One couple totally overwhelmed us by offering us an invitaion to their home when they found out we were visiting a town near to their village. This couple went out of their way to make us feel welcome in their country. They prepared us a simple but wonderful dinner and we even had the opportunity to meet the mayor of the village. We were up talking in a mixture of French/English until 2 in the morning. It is a night we will never forget. This was just one example of the many kindnesses we received from the French.
For chambres d'hotes I definitely recommend the Moulin de Fresquet in Gramat (near Rocamadour) and Les Passiflores (near Rousillon)...both are in Rick's book and the hosts are great.
If you meet someone who is rude to you,
you shouldn't judge a whole nation by that one person. There are good and bad
people everywhere; some happen to be French and some happen to be American. I
always have found that if you act like a guest in a foreign country, be respectful
of their culture, and have an open mind you will have a good time and be treated
well. VIVE LA FRANCE!!!!
Holly Teckenbrock <email>
DeKalb, IL USA 06/24/03
Travels in Europe
Just got back from a month tour of France, Germany, Hungary, Czech Republic,
Slovakia, Austria, Switzerland, England, Wales, and Ireland. Everyone treated
us very well. Better service than here in the States. Much, much more civilized
in everything - manners, food habits, culture - loved Prague and Vienna. Came
back with the idea that Americans are very insular and tend to want to speak
only their own language. Americans should realize that Europeans don't want war
because they have seen hundreds if not thousands of years of war and are heartily
sick of it. Go to Europe, you will feel more at ease with people holding different
points of view and will feel less threatened by the ghosts of your own isolationism.
Jason Balrog <email>
San Francisco, CA USA 06/24/03
Anti-Americanism
I just returned from a very short 2 week vacation in London, Paris, Bruxelles,
Amsterdam, and Cologne. I would not say there was any anti-american treatment
except once in Bruxelles, we were treated fine until we joined an American foursome
who spoke no French and then they were denied food service at A La Becasse although
others were served after. They claimed these other people had reservations.
I did however, find Europeans to be rude and lazy with everyone. The only exception to rudeness was London where everyone was overly polite except the immigration official at London Waterloo, who threatened to insure that I missed my flight if I wanted to complain about them closing a line with people in it, which forced us to go to the end of the other line and missed our flight out of Gatwick. I also see alot of lazy Americans, but I did not see any hard working Europeans.
I only got into two political conversations
in the Netherlands. One was a taxi driver who liked Bush but compared America
with a Playstation game or movie with all the shootings here. The other was with
a hotel clerk who said americans were arrogant because we are big and have so
much room. My advice is to not wear american flags as clothing or accessories
and not discuss being pro-Bush. They really think that 60 or 70% of americans
support Bush, but we know that polls are skewed. I may respect the office, and
happy that the Iraqis are free of Saddam, but that doesn't mean I support Bush.
Saying that americans are all across the spectrum with their opinions is more
accurate anyway.
Deneen Clarke <email>
Minneapolis, MN USA 06/24/03
France and England
We just got back from almost 3 weeks in Southern France, Paris and London. At
no point did any of us get any Anti-American attitude. The French were friendly
and helpful, in their more formal way, and seemed concerned and thoughtful about
local and world political issues. The English we met were often quick to make
a comment about "freedom fries" and asume all Americans are pro-war, but on further
conversation, a fair number of the people we talked to were against the war,
but didn't want to offend us. We joked that it seemed like they just enjoyed
a new excuse to slam the French.
Don Whitebread <email>
Mountain View, CA USA 06/24/03
Differences
My wife and I recently traveled to Portugal and Spain. With the exception of
some graffiti, we experienced no anti-American activity anywhere. We met a lot
of local people and all were quite friendly. As regards some of the negative
comments especially about France, I should mention that it is easy to become
paranoid overseas. I have found that the best way to deal with this type of thing
is to observe how others [especially non-Americans] are treated. Often one will
find that what is perceived as an indication of hostility toward us is not so,
but rather reflects a difference in how interpersoanl relations are handled generally
in a given society. These are cultures which are different from ours and cultures
which predate ours by thousands of years. Things are done differently, and experiencing
those differences is one of the main reasons why we SHOULD travel!
Don Roeder <email>
Carlisle, PA USA 06/24/03
Greece
I just spent two weeks in Greece. The people were very friendly and helpful.
I think the person below is right, they are more anti U.S. policy and Bush than
the people who are traveling. I did see some anti-Nato stuff though.
John
San Francisco, CA USA 06/23/03
Anti-American: No, Anti-Bush: Yes
My husband, 14-year-old son, and I just returned from 2 weeks in Austria and
Germany. We saw a few "PACE" rainbow signs and a very small amount of "NoWar" graffiti,
but experienced no anti-Americanism. We definitely saw some anti-Bushism though.
The people generally separate the average American from the Bush administration.
Don't talk politics on your travels unless you feel very comfortable with your
new-found friends and you'll get along fabulously. We support Bush, but the image
we present to new friends is that we're just proud (but not arrogant) Americans.
R. Banks <email>
Plano, TX USA 06/23/03
Travel To France Was A Bust
I have been to Paris and found them to be rude and inconsiderate. Not too mention
the great insincerity of customer service because they just want our US dollars.
I will never spend a vacation where I am not wanted. I will stick with traveling
in the States for now on. We have some of the most fantastic and beautiful points
of interest right here at our own door steps. Keep France, I will take the good
ole USA any day.
Sean Kennedy <email>
Cambridge, MA USA 06/23/03
FANTASTIC TRIP, NO ANTI-AMERICANISM
My husband and I just returned from Europe, travelling to the United Kingdom,
Ireland, Belgium, Netherlands, Spain and France. We never experienced any Anti-Americanism
at all. On a train in Spain, one woman offered her help in which stop to get
off, we never asked her. On another train in London, we met a very nice Brittish
woman whom we conversed with for the entire 2 hour trip. She was also very helpful
in giving us useful information. In Dublin, we were standing on the street looking
at the map when a man came over and asked us if we needed directions. Everyone
including the French were especially kind and we showed our gratefulness to them
as well. Also, I looked for pace flags in windows and never saw one. We had such
a great time, we are saving our money to go back next year!
PR & WR
UT USA 06/22/03
Anti-Americanism
Just returned from 16 days in France (Provence, Riviera, Brittany, Champagne,
and Paris). Although we saw some graffiti, no one said anything unpleasant to
us even once. Our (French) friends in Brittany told us that, altho the French
disagree with American foreign policy and our actions in Iraq, they have nothing
against the American people.
Carol
Chicago, IL USA 06/22/03
New Anti-American Issue
We just returned from three weeks in Europe and didn't notice any difference
from past years. I think a lot of this "anti-Americanism" is overblown media
hype. The big anti-American issue grabbing headlines in London was a recent report
that 60% of Americans are vastly overweight. The editorial writers and Letters
to the Editor were all suggesting that this was continuing evidence that Americans
are physically consumming too much of the world's food supply.
Frank P. <email>
Centennial, CO USA 06/22/03
Paris
My husband, 15-year-old son and I have been in Paris since the first week of
June. This is my 7th trip here, and never have I found the Parisians to be more
friendly. I think that we are treated with special warmth because we are Americans.
My thoughts are that the Parisians know that if one is American and here now,
one must truly love the French. The warmth sometimes even is disconcerting such
as the time a waiter at a bistro near the Bastille who insisted on speaking English
to us (despite our ability to get by while ordering in French), and who seemed
to take pride in knowing lots about American's tastes in food. Unfortunately,
what he probably had been taught in some kind of crash course he presumably took
was not correct for us. He seemed to have been recently trained to appeal to
the typical American tourist. He even constantly smiled. When he was serving
tables with French people, he acted totally different — speaking French with
the typical serious mien of French waiters.
Aziza <email>
Florida, USA 06/19/03
D-Day Celebration
I met my son in Paris on June 7th. He was just back from Normandy. He was treated
very well. He and his friends were invited to several Liberation celebrations,
because they were Americans. He told me he had to hide his wine glass, to keep
the locals from filling it up. They came away well fed and half drunk.
Barry <email>
Guthrie, OK USA 06/19/03
Three-month experience
As an exchange student of a graduate business program,
I spent three months in Paris last spring. I would say many of the French people
I met on and off the campus are polite and culturally sophisticated. Frankly
I was expecting some French "rudeness" but I really didn't have such a chance!
Most of my French classmates speak fluent English and want to become international
citizens. When returning to America, I became disappointed with the abusive pragmatism
of our propaganda. The nations may disagree on their agenda, but attacking the
symbolic traits of a nationality, people or culture is childish, mildly speaking.
Things like "freedom fries", "freedom kiss", etc. just made me laugh. So, be
an international traveler (of course to safer places like Paris, Venice, etc.)
and enrich yourself beyond the ranches..
Joe Fisher <email>
Los Angeles, CA USA 06/18/03
A French touch...
I am a French citizen living in England, and I am sorry to see how overly worried
some of you are to travel to France. I had to face my own misconception when
I came to live in England, and I do believe that if you can become aware of those
and overcome them, you can have a great time. France is not the US (As some of
my co-nationnals do regularly remind you ). There are substantial cultural/social/historical
differences that can stand in the way of a pleasant stay. I would recommend to
anyone planning a trip to France the following website: http://perso.club-internet.fr/hwelty/
It will give you the views on France of an American lady who lives there. For
those of you who had unfortunate experiences, read it too, it may help you understand
what happened. Enjoy your travels where-ever they take you!
Andre <email>
York, UK 06/18/03
FRENCH WINE TASTES GREAT
Just to echo all that's been said. My wife and I just returned from 17 days in
Barcelona and the south of France. Not one problem. (Although I was initially
mistaken for a German - must be all that "back door" traveling rubbing off).
Patrick Murray
New Brunswick, NJ USA 06/17/03
Italy
We just returned from 2 wonderful weeks in Italy. No anti-Amercanism was experienced
by us at all. This was my ninth trip to Europe, and I've never experienced problems
with anti-American feelings. In 2000, I stumbled out of the metro in Prague into
an Anti-UN and Anti-American rally. After the rally was over, everything was
back to normal and no-one hasseled me. We did meet an Ausie couple in Cinque
Terre that told us they had been mistaken for Americans DURING the war while
visiting Turkey and experienced some hassels.
Tim <email>
Baton Rouge, LA USA 06/17/03
European Welcome Mat
We just traveled for a month through Europe — Spain, France, Italy, Austria, and
even a day in Morocco — and were treated warmly everywhere we went. We drove 3,700
miles from mid May through mid June and spent a lot of time one on one with the
local people (and fellow travelers) everywhere. Literally hundreds of personal
interactions with many different nationalities. Whether asking directions in
poor French, being waited on in Italian restaurants, getting tickets to the Madrid
metro, or buying groceries in Austria, etc. we were treated with respect and
kindness everywhere. So many times we needed assistance and always someone was
there to help us. We experienced absolutely no poor behavior of any kind that
targeted us as the obvious Americans that we are. On the contrary, people were
gracious and helpful. It was the trip of a lifetime and it was the people that
we met that really made it for us. Go ahead and make your European trip as an
ambassador of goodwill. Smile a lot — it will open up plenty of doors and smooth
the way.
Richard <email>
Bellingham, WA USA 06/17/03
No problems in Paris and Rome
We just returned from Rome, Venice and Paris. We had no problems with the Italians
or the French, in fact I thought the French were more pleasant this time then
when we were there two years ago. I was pleasantly suprised. I saw lots of peace
flags in Venice and Rome, some random graffiti, but you can see that in the States
also. I did have problems in Paris with pickpockets this time, once in Montmarte
and once in the subway, I was carrying my purse and twice someone was trying
to open the clasp. Luckily, I noticed one time and my husband noticed the other
time, so ladies leave your bag behind.
Wendy Hessinger <email>
Saint Petersburg, FL USA 06/17/03
The French, Unpleasant? No.
In a total of about 6 weeks in France I've had two experiences which I could
describe as truly unpleasant. One was from a Dutch hotel owner who made herself
unpleasant, and the other was a group of German tourists who made sport by blocking
my car as I was trying to park at Les Baux. I expect the French to keep their
usual savoire-faire concerning Yankee tourists this year. Yet I will not make
my usual trip to France this year. Personal choice. Chirac and his government
went much too far in their actions over the Iraq crisis. I'll be visiting Italy
or Spain instead. Nothing to do with the opinions of the people or even their
government, it's just that the French, German, and Belgian governments have not
been friends to the US this and that calls for a response.....
Don S <email>
London, UK 06/16/03
Madrid
During my trip to Spain a few weeks ago I experienced no anti-Americanism in
conversations. This is to be expected; businesses don't want to antagonize customers
and most people don't bring up politics with people they've only recently met.
Getting away from political strife is one of the reasons a lot of us take vacations.
I did experience anti-American graffiti in Madrid. Graffiti near the Prado called
Bush a fascist. Another scrawling said " — — the USA". One targeted Spain's prime
minister, displaying a swastika below his name. Some Europeans will say that
these sentiments are anti-Bush, anti-war, and anti-fascist, not anti-American.
But this doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Say what you will about him, Bush is no
fascist. There was no graffiti denouncing a real fascist, Saddam Hussein. Nor
did any graffiti denounce Hussein's wars on Iran, Kuwait, and his own people.
The war on Iraq had broad support from the American public. The denunciation
of Aznar was presumably because he supported the U.S. in the war. If their motive
wasn't anti-Americanism, the graffiti sprayers would be consistent.
LLEINAWEAV <email>
Alexandria, VA USA 06/16/03
Come see Mona Lisa's smile
My fellow countrymen! Don't let the stupid political games ruin your journey
opportunity. I was in Paris three weeks ago and did not experience any discomfort
from the local people. When I was in a bar, a few young Frenchmen invited me
for a beer, knowing I am American. We had little chat about a few things except
about Bush or Chirac! My trip was enjoyable and safe. The Mediterranean coast
was warm and beautiful! Mona Lisa at the Louvre seemed to smile at me. Now I
have learned that not every good thing originated from the Anglo-Saxon world!
Trust me, and good luck.
Radne Scarborough (24 yo) <email>
Columbus, OH USA 06/16/03
ANTI-Americanism? Where?
I travel to France a lot. EVERYBODY wants to talk about the political climate
globally... to share ideas and learn what Americans and INDIVIDUALS think. Having
spent two weeks in Paris and a week in Florence, Italy and touring Tuscany....
there was NO discrimination of any kind. I was treated wonderfully as always...
Lots of lively discussion... and much VERY heated and political debate about
Bush.... (some actually in favor of his policies)... but, feel free to travel
with ease in France and Italy... If you need to beware of anything, it is the
current heat wave!
Jerry Smith-Niles <email>
New York, NY USA 06/15/03
Some problems with anti-Americanism
Found Spain to be very open and friendly to a couple of obvious American tourists.
At least until coming to Barcelona, where French speaking tourists and young
urbanite Barcelonians were rude and had some fun at our expense, simply because
we were from the US. Someone said that to be anti-war is not to be anti-American.
I don't think that's really true for many people. The irony is that the average
person or businesspersons who may be more mature in their dealings with foreigners
are not the ones that tourists are likely to meet. It's the low wage service
industry folks waiting tables in cafes that to many tourists seem to represent
the attitudes of the country. And since they are also more likely to be the ones
rioting at G8 summits and demonstrating against anything American , it's no surprise
that they are turning off American tourists with their hostile behavior in everyday
encounters. But all is not lost. When a school group of French students noted
my American accent and (egged on by their teacher/guide) began taunting my wife
and I with anti-Americanisms, I asked them, "What about Eminem? " They all smiled
and nodded. "Eminem is good American," they said.
jjd <email>
boston, ma USA 06/15/03
May in Paris
I recently returned from a week in Paris and my trip was very good as a whole
except for one experience in a cafe. A French gentleman sitting next to me must
have realized I was an American and insisted on debating the whole inspection-war
topic. As I was on my vacation, I did not want to talk about the subject but
he was very insistent and rude. I'm sure this was an isolated incident but it
put me on guard for the rest of my trip. I think I'll hold off in going back
until things cool down.
Rich W <email>
Newark, CA USA 06/14/03
Anti-Americanism in Europe
I recently visited Paris and France for the first time ever and fell madly in
love with the city, the people, the culture and the food. My French is elementary
at best but people were so helpful. Service at the restaurants was amazing and
every person I encountered was polite and kind. The stereotype of the rude Frenchman
is inaccurate. As someone once said, don't be the ugly American and you won't
encounter the ugly Frenchman. I am definitely going back to Paris for New Year's.
Try and experience everything the city has to offer and don't try and complain
about things that are different and you will be fine. Anti-Americanism is just
media hype. Young French kids love all things American as was evident at a club
that played mostly American music. Seeing a bunch of French kids do the YMCA
shows that some things are universal. Keep an open mind and read up on the little
things like cafe etiquette and you will have a blast. Je t'aime Paris et Vive
la France. Thanks for the amazing time. I'll be back.
Amit Tonse <email>
Kensington, MD USA 06/14/03
No problems
I just spent
two and half weeks in London, Paris, Italy, and Austria, had a great time, and
encountered no hostility whatever. (Sadly, old-fashioned Ugly Americanism was
a frequent sight by comparison.) If you're polite, patient, respectful, and are
willing to try out a few words in the local language - especially if it happens
to be French - then you're good as gold.
SJE
Eugene, OR USA 06/13/03
anti-what?
I was in France for a few weeks lat month, my brother married a French girl ...
talk about a bash :). Neither my family, nor any of the large group of Americans
there for the wedding encountered any anti-Americanism. From Lille to Alsace,
from the Alps to Lyon, and to Paris .... nothing. I can't help but wonder if
any of the incidents mentioned below were "brought on" by the posters themselves,
I can smell some attitude in some of the posts. As for the French Open post,
yesterdays visit to the US Open was not choir practice either. Be nice (smile,
say please and thank you in the local language if you can, ask nicely ... don't
demand anything from a stranger) and people will be nice to you. I'm not saying
you won't encounter anything objectionable, just that your behavior has much
more to do with how you are treated than what country you may be from.
Tom Emmons <email>
Chicago, IL USA 06/13/03
No ant American
We just returned from Germany June 3. Flew into Munich and drove south to Bad
Tolz.. people super friendly and helpful..From there we drove to Schonau am Konigssee.
Rented a house for a week. Same result! Then to Salzburg.. Everyone helpful
and friendly.. Not one anti American comment. I'd go back in a minute.
Wayne G. Heigel <email>
Lenexa, Ks USA 06/11/03
Just back from France
My sister and I just returned a few days ago from 2 weeks in England and France
and were relieved to have experienced no Anti-Americanism. In fact, the French
people we encountered went out of the way to be helpful - much more friendly
than I remember from my trip 2 years ago. Our first evening in Paris our young
waiter was very excited to find out we were from the US, as he was planning on
spending some time in California and asked for some advice and email addresses.
Also, out of the blue, a Metro employee saw us looking at a map on a wall and
steered us to an English speaking ticket seller to give us advice.
While in Normandy
on D-Day, there were many houses flying both the American and French flags and
the number of French people at the American cemetary paying their respects was
very moving. We had taken a minivan tour of the beaches and when our tour was
over our guide kindly offered to drive us back to the train station, instead
of making us take a bus. He didn't have to do that, and it was so nice. I could
site many more instances, but the point is, we had a great experience in France
and the people we met were a big part of it.
SS <email>
Los Angeles, CA USA 06/11/03
Anti-Americanism in France
My 16 year old daughter is currently on a group trip in Europe. She has found
every stop on her tour to be interesting and educational and a great experience.
However, on the phone the other night, she did tell me that while in Paris, French
boys flirted with the girls, but the American boys were not treated well. Several
were told that they should "go home and were not welcome in France" and one boy
was physicially assaulted on the Metro. I had wanted my daughter to experience
the same Paris I so enjoyed thirty-plus years ago but some jerks had to ruin
a little of it. Granted, since the recent difficulties between our countries,
the French may receive the same reception in our country. What goes around comes
around?
MJ <email>
USA 06/11/03
Venice the best
We had just returned from Italy, and had a great time. We did not have any problems
with pickpocketing. The only anti american stuff we encountered was the graffiti
that said Yankees go home. But I have seen worse in our cities here in America.
The people were great and Venice was the best. If you get tired of Italian food,
got to Chinatown in Rome they have a great take out and a great rate.
Irvine, CA USA 06/11/03
Kind French people
We just returned from a 3 week tour of France. People were very polite and helpful.
NO anti-americanism. People we talked with were more interested in telling us
about their experience while visiting the US. The countryside was beautiful,
the food was awesome and if I could afford the Euros, would go again!
Silverdale, WA USA 06/10/03
Stubborn travellers
We just returned from two weeks in France, mostly Paris, because we love the
city. We still love it, but we certainly did experience several encounters that
might cause a less determined traveller to swear never to head out again. Like
refusal of service in a restaurant. Like backs turned obviously to show disregard.
Like one fellow trying to tell us to go back home, but his English wasn't good
enough for the job.
Carson <email>
Anderson, IN USA 06/10/03
Words of warning
Our trip through the UK, France, Germany, Switzerland and Italy made several
things very clear. The only country where I experienced any hostility towards
Americans was France. It wasn't media hype in our case. The "F- the USA" messages
on overpasses left little to the imagination and there was much more that we
learned to ignore. Two words of warning for those on their way over to Europe..we
are getting ready to come back...watch out for pickpockets in Paris and Florence,
Italy. It's gotten bad compared to past trips. Secondly, Easy Jet, Easy Car and
the whole damn Easy family was our only mistake. The pre-reserved cars weren't
waiting and the flights were all late. I won't go with Easy Anything in the future.
Also bring plenty of money, the dollar has taken a serious beating and Europe
is more expensive than I've ever seen it.
Steve Smith <email>
Federal Way, WA USA 06/10/03
I agree that USA may have been a little brusque in his comments regarding
greece. However, I think he has a point in warning us not to oversimplfy
Europe. There is a definite antiamerican subculture in places like Athens
and Thessalonika. Travelling there a few year ago I can attest to seeing
numerous tshirts and signs with antiamerican slogans. This is also very
evident in the press. All said, greece is a spectacular place though! Let's
not crucify someone for pointing out facts. This seems to really infuriate
some of you. That's what this site is all about...the good AND the bad.
Steve Richards, LA USA 06/10/03
Greek Ant-American Sentiment
I have
traveled to many areas of Greece and do agree with Michelle in that I always
had a fabulous time. I must say though, there was and is an anti-american sentiment
throughout Greece that has has nothing to do with a dislike of President Bush
and his recent activities. 5 years ago, there were young men wearing "F*** the
USA" shirts as opposed to "F*** Bush". Still, Greece is beautiful and reasonable
and if you stick to more remote regions (if you're nervous you may want to stay
away from Thessaloniki or Athens, etc.) You're gauranteed a great time.
SLV
Boston, MA USA 06/10/03
Anti-French Advocate
Having been a francophile for most of my life, I've heard reports of the rudeness
of the French but never experienced any firsthand until our trip to Italy this
past March. Our travel arrangements were with Air France with connecting flights
through the Paris DeGaulle Airport. Both coming and going, we were treated rudely
and offensively by Air France employees and those working within the airport.
We were told by airport employees to "go home - we don't need you here", among
other inhospitable comments. If the French government wishes to regain the American
tourist dollars, they should start where first impressions are made - the airport
and its employees! It may be some lengthy period of time before my husband and
I will ever feel like spending our hard earned American dollars for either french
tourism or french products. In one very long day, the french managed to turn
this franchophile into an anti-French advocate! Let's spend our money at home
or where it is appreciated.
Stephanie <email>
Broomall, PA USA 06/10/03
French Open (Closed)
Just back from the French Open...talk about rude, the French take the cake. Openly
booing any American just because they are American. We were treated very rudely
and snubbed. It was the worst vacation in my life !
Tom Spear <email>
Seattle, WA USA 06/10/03
Not Bad at all.
Just returned from 17 days in Paris, Normandy, Loire, Geneva and Murren. We experienced
no direct aspersions to our nationality, thought the French are still generally
aloof. I personally received wonderful help from a Paris newstand agent when
I was looking for St Denis Basilica without an adequate map about 5 miles from
it's actual location. He managed to communicate to me the exact metro route and
stop. Normandy residents were friendly and enjoying warm weather. Loire very
touristy. We were in Geneva and Morges for 3 nights and saw some demonstrations
but missed the trashing of the main routes. When we returned, senseless graffiti
was everywhere, flowerbeds ripped apart and windows smashed by visitors to "the
city of Peace". After hectic touring the mountains of Switzerland offered blessed
tranquility. Go, but be prepared for deviations caused by strikes.
Tim Parker <email>
San Antonio, TX USA 06/10/03
The Netherlands
I just returned from a three-week trip around Europe, and as I live near NYC,
I pretty much attribute rude behavior in foreign countries to the same source
I do in the United States: some people are born jerks. I don't take it personally.
That said, I saw several large "Yankees, Go Home" banners hanging from windows
in Amsterdam, and yes, it left me speechless. I guess I wasn't expecting such
blatant displays of anti-American attitude, and while I did get over the shocked
feeling rather quickly, it left a somewhat bitter taste in my mouth. This was
the only city where I experienced what I consider anti-Americanism.
Michelle
NJ USA 06/09/03
Trip through France
We just returned yesterday from a month of self-contained bike touring
throughout France. It began with 4 days in Paris and then we pedaled out and
headed through Normandy, Loire Valley, Massif Central including Vichy and Clermont
Ferrand. Tons of small villages and towns along the way. All I can say is thanks
to all those who wrote in to say they had a great time and to not cancel a trip
because I was close due to all the talk and media chatter but I'll tell you,not
a bad word was said to us and the bottom line is..the French are the French.
We had people go out of their way for us and others be rather short but that
was only twice. I really felt no malice due to being an American. We even met
this old Swiss guy that loved Bush and the woman at the B&B we were at looked
at him and said "Oh you awful man!" They were friends but I guess she just learned
something new about him. It was pretty funny. Fact is, I got treated better in
a month in France than I do here in my own country. Anyway, the point is GO!
If someone is rude, smile, say thanks and walk away. Be bigger than they are
and approach the next person with a smile and a bonjour. Have fun.
Liz <email>
L.A., CA USA 06/09/03
Nothing but Good Times in Greece
I just came back from 6 days in Athens and 4 days on the island of Syros, and
I had the best time. While I did see "F*** Bush" graffiti in Athens, the Greeks
could not have been any nicer. I agree with others who said that learning a few
basic phrases and a smile goes a long way. Whenever someone heard my accent they
asked me what part of "The States" I was from, and after I told them they would
always happily talk about their relatives who now live in America. I've drawn
two conclusions from my trip: Greeks may not be crazy about our leaders, but
they love America and Americans; and that this "Anti-Americanism" that has been
reported ad nauseum in the US media is nothing but a bunch of hype.
Michele
Cherry Hill, NJ USA 06/09/03
People are people
Why is it that when ever someone is treated rudely, or ripped off while traveling
they tend to assume that it is "anti-americanism". I have travelled in many European
countries and have had serveral such experiences( rude waiters, impatience clerks
etc,) but as I am NOT American I have never considered it to a "anti" anything
. People are people everywhere in the world , there are jerks in the states as
well as in Paris. Stop reading more into someone having a bad day, or trying
to rip you off, they probaly treat there own just as bad.Some people may in fact
not like americans, but then some americans may not like them either.AS for the
comment that of course waiters etc, will treat you nicely because they want your
tourist dollers, well, DUH. I have also worked in the service industry and trust
me I would treat our customers nicely for the same reasons> People who like history
and art will always travel to Europe.It's wonderful!!! Warts and all!
canada 06/08/03
Travelling to Spain
As Americans we were treated like family with the Spanish especially in the Andalucia
region. We met many Brits and SpYanish and we thought of ourselves as the three
muskateers! We decided after we left Gibraltar and Tarifa not to go to Morrocco
simply because the Spanish and English felt a day was better spent in Spain.
Luckily, we headed their advice and missed the suicide bombings in Casablanca.
Fall in love with Sevilla and the route of the pueblos blancos and coast of Spain.
It was better than we ever could have imagined!
Pamela Reeder <email>
Tampa, Fl USA 06/08/03
Just returned from 2 weeks in Italy (a few days in Rome, the rest
in Umbria) People could not have been nicer. Good manners and a few phrases
from a book is all it takes to break the ice. I would also agree with the
point of others that some Europeans are concerned with how they are seen
by America. Anyone know where I can get a Pace flag?
USA 06/08/03
3 weeks in all over France
Just returned on June 8th from France. We were in Paris, Nice, Lyon, Annecy,
and Beaune for the last 3 weeks. Fabulous time... everyone very friendly. A wine
maker that we met in a restaurant asked us to come tase his wines the next day....
spent all day! We had lunch with his family!!!! Talked at length about this issue...
it's all about Bush and Chirac. Not you and me. As he said to me, "these leaders
like spending money on bombs when they should let us spend the money on wine".
You gotta love his way of thinking. This was our second independant trip to France.
Crowds were small the vibe was good. We were within a stones throw of Evian when
the G8 conference happened and still didn't experience a single negative thing.
The G8 was just as bad in Seattle as I recall. Anyhow, go. Don't cancel because
of fear of negative French attitude. It's not real. Countless positive experiences
to report. In fact.... better than ever.
Jeff Lindquist <email>
Reseda, CA USA 06/08/03
Anti-Americanism in Europe
I just got back from a two week train trip with two 19 year old boys (I'm the
father of one of these, I'm 53) We were in Rome, Florence, Venice, Garmisch,
Munich, Rothenburg, Amsterdam, London. We talked a lot with locals, mainly in
English, and we found almost no anti-Americanism or hostility. In fact, a German
lady on the train to Munich was very concerned with the "atmosphere in the U.S." and
what Americans thought of Germans. There were lots of PACE signs in Italy, and
we saw a few "demonstration areas" like the one across from Parliament in London,
but many of these also had "hammer and sickles" and weren't representative of
general thought than our extreme, anti-globalist left in the U.S.
We give the Europeans credit for being well informed, but my opinion is that the cause of anti-American feelings is the stagnation Europe has experienced for a decade. They simply can't compete with the U.S. or other capitalist economies and tend to blame the U.S. and globalism. McDonalds is frequently a target, despite the fact that it sells local products and hires local people. The Europeans we talked with saw us as real people who were truly enjoying their culture, not as the cartoon-image they hold in their minds of the greedy, warlike American Capitalists. BTW, they also know that we are the only country that would save them from the kind of brutality the Iraqis lived under.
In the tourist towns (Bacharach, Rothenburg) they are feeling the loss of Americans, who tend to spend more than Europeans in the shops and restaurants. In a hostel in Cologne, I overheard some German kids lecturing American kids on using too much water to shower. The theme was that the Americans were using up all the world's resources. Blaming the world's problems with fresh water on America is typical among much of the youth of Europe, who have no other religion than environmentalism, and often don't apply logic to their arguments. (which is not to say we don't waste water — like gasoline it's cheaper and more plentiful over here. But we don't waste their water)
I've lived and traveled extensively in Europe and have had six exchange students, each spending a year, so I'm familiar with European thinking. My advice is to be yourself, try to learn a few words in their language, and don't apologize for or try to hide your status as Americans. There are some "Ugly-Americans" like the kids I saw laughing and joking at the Tomb of the Unknown in Paris, but the vast majority of Americans I saw on this trip were well-behaved and humble.
In
fact, I always get a kick out of European youth telling me everything that's
wrong with the U.S., then concluding with "and you're so arrogant." Several of
our exchange students are looking for work in the U.S. It's still the land of
opportunity. If you're intimidated by "anti-American feelings", stay home, because
you'll probably also be frightened of train travel, Italian butcher shops and
German toilets. My son and his friend both fell in love with the European cities, by
the way, and have discovered the difference between "standard of living" and "quality
of life."
Robert Keeney <email>
Grapevine, tx USA 06/08/03
Anti-Americanism
Our Black Forest trip was pretty much devoid of Anti-Americanisms. As usual,
we encountered 1 or 2 rude or unhelpful people (post office and Deutsche Bahn
ticket office), but most people didn't seem to care where we were from. One of
the hotel managers asked us about George Bush, whom I despise and my husband
admires (makes for a lively supper table), and pronounced that "Bush is a stupid
man." I agreed, my husband said nothing, and "Christian" went on to complain
about German politicians and taxes. And that was that. The media is definitely
over-reacting to everything. We watched CNN in English at the first hotel, and
were disgusted at their almost hysterical reporting of anything vaguely connected
to terrorism. When we got deeper into the Black Forest, we couldn't get CNN or
any English-speaking TV stations, which was a blessing. Same goes for BBC International.
Sensationalism personified and we could barely understand a word the commentators
said.
Hilde <email>
Old Bridge, NJ USA 06/07/03
anti-americanism
I traveled thru Brussels, Netherlands, France, Italy and Germany. Everywhere
I went I was welcomed. I had no problems anywhere. I think the "trick" is to
realize that europeans are proud of their ancient cultures and respect travelers
who respect thier culture. The most out standing example was in a tobaccoist
shop in Venice. I walked in said "buona mattina, due marlboro accomodano, grazie,
buon giorno" (good morning 2 marlboro please, thank you, good day" and service
was very good. the sales person was friendly and smiling. as I was leaving another
american entered .. slapped his hand on the counter and said "give me a marlboro!".
the clerk turned his back on the customer and proceeded to ignor him until the
american walked out in disgust. you know this american is now back home spreading
the word on how rude Italians are. But in reality he was the rude one. I found
the same true everywhere I went. If you at least make an effort to show you respect
thier culture and language; just a couple basic phrases. you will be treated
well. I'm sure my pronuciation was terrible .. didn't seem to matter. it was
the effort that was appreciated. buy a phrase book, go, enjoy your trip. The "Back
Door" book came in very very handy.
John
USA 06/07/03
Greeted warmly by Europeans
We recently returned from a self-guided, 25 day trip through Holland, Germant,
Austria, Northern Italy and France culminating with a week at a rented apartment
in Paris. The people we encountered could not possibly have been more pleasant,
warm, friendly and helpful. This was true in each country, whether in small Bavarian
and Dolomite villages or the cities of Amsterdam, Salzburg and Paris. Sure, no
Europeans had anything good to say about Bush and Rumsfield but we weren't there
to discuss geo-politics, their elected leaders or ours. Personally, I found the
French-bashing that was taking place in the States prior to our departure to
be the work of those Americans with limited exposure to other cultures and even
less tolerance of differing views.
Thomas Sjogren <email>
Duluth, MN USA 06/07/03
"We Don't Sell Cough Drops in France"
My wife, Jan, and I had a great time in France, and it would be hard to describe
it all. However, one of the things that a lot of people are interested in is
how we were treated by the French people in view of the rift between France and
the United States over the war in Iraq. Prior to out trip, we got comments like, "Aren't
you afraid?" and "Are you STILL going?" and "I'd cancel if I were you." We went
anyway.
I think it is safe to assume that every French person we came in contact with knew that we were Americans, so their actions, one way or another, were probably conducted with that knowledge. I can say that we were made to feel very welcome in France. With only a few exceptions, all of the clerks, waiters and waitresses, and salespeople were friendly and helpful.
So, in order to dispense with the exceptions, here they are: One taxi driver appears to have taken a longer route than necessary (the ride from the train station in Bayeux cost more than the ride back). In Paris, a pharmacist seemed to have a very difficult time understanding that we wanted cough drops even after we used the correct word for them from Rick's phrase book. She kept insisting, "We don't sell cough drops in France," She eventually did sell us a bag of Vicks cough drops for which we paid six euros. This seemed a little steep even for Paris. And, finally, a clerk at a tobacco shop in Paris was unfriendly when we tried to buy a telephone card, but in that incident, it was probably our fault because we didn't ask for it properly.
None of these seemed to occur solely because we were Americans, and none were very disturbing. Looking back, they appear more like interesting facets of a big adventure.
Now, for the times people were a little friendlier than we anticipated. Our first friendly encounter with was with the shuttle bus driver who took us from the airport to the Metro (subway) station at the Gare du Nord station. When we arrived at the station, he stopped the bus, pulled out a harmonica, and started playing La Marseillaise. When he finished, we smiled and asked him the direction to the Metro. After he pointed toward a door in the building, he told us he was Portuguese and asked us if we were for Bush or Clinton. So, he wasn't exactly French, but it seemed like a friendly welcome.
We bought a carnet of 10 tickets, and headed for the tunnel to the Magenta terminal where we were supposed to take the RER E train, direction Haussmann-Saint-Lazare, until Haussmann-Saint-Lazare, where we planned to then catch a train to the city of Bayeux. I picked out a likely looking Frenchman and asked him if he knew where the Magenta terminal was. But instead of telling me where it was, he asked me where I wanted to go. I told him that I wanted to get to Gare-Saint-Lazare, and he said, "Then you have to go to Pigalle." I didn't like that idea, since I had it all figured out. I must have looked confused, so he said, "I'm going in that direction. I'll show you."
We walked along with Jan following behind, and we eventually came to a diagram of the Metro system, where the man showed me how, by taking three different trains, we could get to where we wanted to go. After listening to him, I asked, "Why can't we just take line RER line E from Magenta to Gare-Saint-Lazare, then we wouldn't have to change trains so many times?" "Because," he said, "that line is on strike." So there it was. This French guy not only went out of his way, but he had to put up with my reluctance in following his advice to get us, complete strangers and Americans, to the place we wanted to go.
At the Gare-Saint-Lazare train station, the saleslady gave us a discount for buying a round-trip ticket and coming back on a weekend. That seemed friendly.
The hotel we stayed at in Bayeux, the Hotel d'Argouges, was flying the American flag out in front when we arrived. That was nice. And, every French person that we met in the city was also friendly. At the market place outside of our hotel, there was a booth selling bandanas, and two different styles of them had "stars and stripes" designs. That seemed to be pro American if not downright friendly.
While in Bayeux, there was a mix-up in our reservations for the D-Day Tour of the American Beaches, and the tour failed to pick us up. However the owner of the hotel went out of her way to call the manager of the tour company; and he personally came out to the hotel, picked us up, and brought us to the in-progress tour. Because we arrived late, he gave us the student rate instead of the full rate. That seemed sort of friendly.
When we got back to Paris, we were riding the Metro again. Jan was able to get a seat, but I had to stand. After a short while, a Frenchman who was sitting, got up gave me his seat. Now that was more than I would ever have expected in France or anywhere else.
Then, while on a tour of Versailles, the guide was very attuned to the current situation between France and the United States. He commented that if we wanted to change the name of "French Fries" to "Freedom Fries", that was okay with France because France stands for freedom too. During the tour, he pointed out where the Peace of Paris was signed in 1783. After a pause, he asked if that date, 1783, meant anything to anybody, but no one answered. Then he explained that that was when Britain recognized the independence of the United States. He was alluding to the close ties between France and the United States during the American Revolutionary War.
He also took the time during the tour to identify Benjamin Franklin in a large painting sitting among the French nobility and, in the Hall of Battles, he explained a painting of the surrender at the Siege of Yorktown showing George Washington along with the Marquis de Lafayette and Count de Rochambeau, both of whom led French forces and were instrumental in winning America's independence. He and all of the local guides during our entire tour in France were very friendly.
And one more thing: On the Sunday just
before we left Paris, we attended mass at the Cathedral of St. Suplice in order
to hear the organ concert. In the square outside the cathedral was a bazaar where
a couple dozen booths were displaying French-made wares. There was a bandstand,
but no band was playing, so after looking at the booths, we took a walk in the
nearby Luxembourg Gardens. On our way back we could hear the band playing "When
The Saints Go Marching In." As we passed, they completed their American medley
with a rousing "Stars And Stripes Forever." Now, that's what I call friendly!
Gilbert Mros <email>
Minneapolis, MN USA 06/06/03
No Anti-Americanism in Italy
My wife, sister-in-law and I went this past May, and we encountered nothing but
friendliness. On Capri, a local passenger overheard that we might have missed
our intended destination and asked us where we were headed. He noted we just
past our dest, then yelled to the bus driver to stop the bus for us. At a Naples
bus stop, a female teenager who couldn't speak English, patiently put up with
my inquiries and pointed me to the correct bus out of several that would take
me to the airport. There were dozens more of such kind acts during our short
stay. And we didn't encounter one grimace or instance of rudeness when we had
to inform locals of our original nationality...a country they bitterly lost to
in last year's World Cup! I can't count the number of times I said "grazie" to
all the gracious Italians we met during our most enjoyable trip.
Mr. Choe
Irvine, CA USA 06/05/03
French tennis fans
Anyone who thinks the French are fair-minded, only negative to Bush, should have
been with me at the earlier rounds of the French Open this week. We just returned,
and watched in amazement as the French crowd cheered for every American opponent,
and openly jeered the American tennis players. This morning, the announcers are
shocked at the French hostility to Serena Williams. Please don't say they are
doing this because they don't like Bush! At last report, he's not playing in
the Open.
AdamS <email>
New York, NY USA 06/05/03
Greece and London
My husband and I just returned from 3 weeks in Greece and London. We had no problems
with anti-american sentiments. When we landed in Heathrow I went outside to grab
a smoke and sat next to the nicest English lady. She was very interested in how
we felt here. What a great discussion we had regarding media hype and travel!
In Greece we were in Athens and on the island of Paros. We were treated with
the upmost friendliness. Don't be afraid to travel now, it is still a wonderful
world to experience.
Deb DeRosa <email>
Belleville, MI USA 06/05/03
Asian-American in Paris
I'm a well-travelled Asian-American and I've been to France twice and I can tell
you that I felt more discriminated by french than by americans. The waiters treat
me and my family like we couldn't afford to be at their restaurants. My wife
and I are both college educated, polite and not "loud" but still not "european" enough
to be respected in France.
Mr Lee
Irvine, CA USA 06/04/03
Americans in Paris
I'm an ex-Seattlite living in Paris now and I haven't ever encountered anti-Americanism
due to the current political situation. French people seem to be able to
see the difference between individual Americans and the Bush Administration.
People here (and in Europe in general) strongly dislike Bush, his wars, and
his attitude toward Europe. But no one has ever blamed me personally for
Bush or treated me differently here specifically because of him. Now keep
in mind that France (particularly Paris) still has cultural standards that
are different from America. And when Americans act typically American here
- talking too loudly, dressing sloppy, or being rude to local people - they
are treated as the French have always treated obnoxious Americans. This isn't
anti-Americanism, necessarily, just enforcing French cultural values.
Stay on your best French behavior and you shouldn't have any problems.
And also keep in mind that the French love to debate. So you may be called
upon to explain Bush, the war in Iraq, or why Americans are letting Bush
act like he is. Why aren't we rioting in the streets and making him behave
himself? Questions like this might be put in a rather forceful, blunt
way, but they aren't meant to be offensive. The French are genuinely
baffled about how Americans can put up with Bush. Just calmly explain
things as best you can and don't take any of it personally. And if you
are a Bush supporter, be prepared to defend your point of view. I think
the whole so-called rift between America and France has been created
by the American government and media. And, unfortunately, it has been
bought into by a number of Americans. ALL of my French friends currently
living in or visiting America have encountered many examples of discrimination
lately just for being French. But one of the benefits of travel is to
get a more well-rounded view of the world. Don't just believe the hype.
Come to Europe, talk to real Europeans, and form your own opinions.
Ian Wood <email>
Paris, France 06/04/03
French treatment of me in April '03
I recently returned from France. In my five days in Paris & five days on the
French Riveria, I was treated like a long lost friend! Several people apologized
to me for those French who were acting in an anti-American way. They said that
most of the French people like American's and that lots of American's were against
war also. That's what Democracy is all about. Regardless of their motivation,
they were great to me!
Richard DeMarco <email>
Alameda, California USA 06/04/03
People are all the same.
I found the French to be human. When I got back to San Francisco, I noticed a
chinese man who didn't speak english trying to get on the bus without proper
change. The driver told him to "get the hell off of my bus and learn to speak
english". So, there ya go...
johnx
San Francisco, CA USA 06/03/03
Paris , No Problem.
We just returned from five days in Paris and experienced no problems and much
friendliness. Lots of political conversations but not much different than here.
By all means go; you will be treated well.
Joe
Atlanta, GA USA 06/03/03
French attitude toward the US?
We had read all the postings here about how great travel was in Europe before
we left two weeks ago for France. We had been led to believe from the postings
included here that it was most unusual to run into any hostility. Boy were we
surprised!In the hotel, at restaurants, even at the Museums, despite what we
thought was our own civil behavior, we were treated like something slimey. "May
we have two tickets?" I asked the person at the Cluny museum. "If you insist
on coming in, yes," she said Then tonight on NBC news I saw Tom Brokaw reporting
that French attitude toward the US (not just Bush) was down to a 30% positive
rating. Can't help but wonder how all the posters here managed to escape it!
Carlos <email>
San Diego, CA USA 06/03/03
anti-Americanism in Italy
Just returned from Italy- Absolutely no problems, if there is anti-Americanism
there, we did not see nor did we experience any.
Ed Lewis
USA 06/03/03
Traveling in France
My husband and I just returned from a two week tour of France and we had no negative
comments anywhere; in fact, we met the nicest people! No reason not to go!
Judith Anderson <email>
Tempe, AZ USA 06/03/03
No problems to report
"Amen" to the comments from Robyn. I just returned from several days in Paris
and Brugge, and if anything, I was treated with much MORE courtesy than during
previous visits. And people definitely knew where I was from; while I wasn't
wearing a USA flag on my T-shirt or anything, my French ain't that great. The
only comment I heard during the entire trip was from a Brit in Brugge, who told
a kid who WAS wearing a red, white and blue T-shirt: "I'd be right there with
ya, mate, if it wasn't for your George Bush."
Scott <email>
Irvine, CA USA 06/02/03
Why only the French?
Why is it that of all of the countries in the world that did not support the
war in Iraq, people are still harping on about France? Many many other countries
refused to join the coalition and I don't see people sniping about Germany, for
example. And let's not forget that the countries that did send troops, i.e. England
and Spain, did so without the support of the people of those countries.
I was just in England, and France. Many of the Brits we spoke with are furious with Tony Blair (aka Tony the Tart to the Brits for being Dubya's puppet) and some folks were less than cordial. We actually were refused service in a pub in England (our allies) due to being American because the owner's son was in Iraq and he is scared witless that his son will be killed. He blames America for starting this war in the first place, and who can blame him? This will not prevent me from travelling again to England, but I must say some of the Brits' reactions to us were very unexpected and off-putting.
We were also in Paris and our treatment couldn't have been better. A lot of
the Parisians we spoke with couldn't understand why the American media continues
to fuel the fire of all of the supposed anti-Americanism in France which remains
a truly good question since the people we spoke with and interacted with were
charming, helpful and extremely welcoming. And in the coverage of the French
Open Tennis Tournament this weekend, the media was at it again. They just couldn't
stop themselves from saying, "Boy, we weren't sure of our reception here in
Paris, but so far so good." What do people think is going to happen? The French
are a civilised people and have better manners than most of the Americans we
saw in Paris. Accept the fact that not everyone in the world agrees with what
our government is doing. Heard of free speech? They have that right in Europe,
too. And to all of you boycotting France, thanks, the sights were not crowded.
Thanks very much and keep it up!
Jacqueline
Westport , CT USA 06/02/03
anti-americanism
I left for Paris the day before the war broke out and was in Paris for one month
(March - April 2003). I never experienced any anti-American sentiment, even when
I'd pop into a cafe to catch the latest news about the war. I actually expected
to see a few harsh glances come my way once people heard my American accent,
but this never happened. Several times, people went out of their way to help
me when it was obvious I was a foreigner, and there was absolutely no negativity
when I said I was American. Yes, there are many cultural differences between
Americans and the French, and it's very helpful to be respectful of them and
to try to speak some words in French. They'll appreciate the effort and will
more likely want to help you. I can't wait to return to Paris!
Robynn <email>
Seattle, WA USA 06/02/03
Expatriate enjoying Europe
I have lived in England for five months now, and have personally experienced
no anti-American treatment in my recent travels. People are more curious than
anything. I have been to Italy, The Netherlands and Scotland and many places
in England. All of them like my money very much. The only "anti-Americanism" I
encountered was really anti war protests and marches in Cambridge, and London
by students which were easily avoided or ignored. Anywhere you go you can find
people who will help you and be nice to you, and those that won't. Why let the
jerks stop you from experiencing culture and growth? Be yourself, be discreet,
dress inconspicuously and try to speak the native language a bit. A little "Buon
Giorno" goes a long way. Enjoy our differences and similarities, and get a new
perspective on how to live, and live well. They have a few years experince doing
just that all over Europe!
Beck
UK 06/02/03
Just Media Hype
My wife and I just returned from a 3 week tour through England, France and Italy.
Not only did we have an excellent time, but were treated very graciously. If
I could I wouldn't hesitate to do it all over again. Don't pass up the opportunity
for any kind of media hype.
Micah Gaston <email>
Bellingham, wa USA 06/01/03
Recent travel in Italy
My family of four (my husband, two adult children, and I) recently returned from
two weeks in southern Italy and Sicily. Everyone treated us graciously. My husband
and I had visited northern Italy last year, and we found no difference in our
interactions with the Italians in 2002 and 2003. (The only major difference was
in the value of the euro vs. the dollar!) We hope to visit France in the fall.
We sincerely hope that Europeans contine to recognize that not all US citizens
support our government's policies of aggression.
gail
CA USA 06/01/03
No anti-Americanism
I traveled to Spain, France, and Italy in March (during the war) and experienced
no problems. A number of French liked to argue about the war, but no more so
than Americans who opposed it. There's a big difference between anti-war and
anti-America.
Gary
RI USA 06/01/03