Ireland 2010Best ways to improve this book: Shirley, I am a rural person too, but I did READ Rick's book before I went to Ireland. I was not surprised to find cars parked on both sides of the street, nor was I surprised at the speed with which the locals navigate the the roads. Guidebooks are written with a purpose. Use them to your advantage. Sincerely, Jake Jake in Nash, AZ USA 11/15/2009 We are rural people and, though we use narrow, curvy roads often, were shocked at the speeds which people drive on narrow, winding roads. Warn readers of this more clearly. Cars parked both directions, sometimes in the drive lane, were difficult for us to get used to. We spent the entire month of Oct, 2009 in Ireland, so we had time to adjust to the driving conditions (at first, terrified; later merely challenged). Getting around requires one good map-reader/sign-reader and one good driver. Shirley in Pagosa Springs, CO USA 11/08/2009 This most recent trip to Ireland was the 4th time that my husband, Tom Shomaker, and I took "Rick" along with us to Europe. We traveled without Rick three prior times and cannot imagine how we did it. We get so much more out of our trips with Rick. We read and research for months before we leave and then enjoy having Rick's opinions with us at all times! We love Europe and appreciate all the helpful background information and tips. Fall of 2010 we plan to visit the Black Forest and new parts of Germany. Thanks Rick! Lori Ecklebe in Omaha, NE USA 10/25/2009 Your guidebook was right-on. I really appreciate the honesty. Gail Moser in Bandon, Or USA 10/12/2009 Update the prices and suggest if people drive invest in a GPS. The streets really do have no names (or 12). Dale in Libertyville, IL USA 10/11/2009 We found that almost all of the prices had gone up by about 10% from what was quoted in the book. Overall, we love your books and will use again. Kimberly Lachamn in Libertyville, IL USA 10/11/2009 This was my first trip to Ireland and your book was invaluable. Your driving tips were very useful. I spent an extra 15 Euro a day for a GPS, which I found invaluable. I think getting around, even with the road atlas you recommended, would have been much more difficult without the GPS - I would highly recommend it to anyone. Eric in Falls Church, VA USA 10/04/2009 A few more listings for higher end hotels in Dublin. Mary Therese in Tucson, AZ USA 10/02/2009 see above Ed Thurlow in Iselin, NJ USA 09/26/2009 I love Rick Steves, I watch the show, listen to the radio program and I used the London and Germany guidebooks to plan my vacation last year. Next year we are planning a large family trip to Ireland in the spring and I noticed that some of the Rick Steves books are available for the Amazon Kindle, but the Ireland one is not. Do you have plans to release them all for the Kindle? I am excited to have it on my Kindle because it is a small and handy way to have the information without lugging around the book. Thanks! Kristina Schneider in Hebron, KY USA 09/21/2009 By all means, keep the updates going! We planned our trip in three weeks (we were enjoying a pint at a local KC Irish bar and made the decision to go that night). Rick Steves' Ireland became our bible. We carried it on our trip and used it regularly. The city maps (all of them) and legends were very helpful. Pamela in Overland Park, KS USA 09/12/2009 Book could provide more specifics about car rentals (age limitations, additional charges for driving into Northern Ireland, insurance, garages near Dublin to fix flats, replace hubcaps, etc.) Also LAUDROMATS: locations, hours, cost. Gallarus Oratory is still free even without a Heritage Card. The guidebook needs to be more specific about finding the back road (It’s still there!) because the land owner doesn’t offer any suggestions.
Mary Ann in Wilmette, IL USA 09/06/2009 We think all Rick's books are fantastic--we use them as much as possible. Carol and Bob Hicks in Los Angeles, CA USA 09/04/2009 FYI:There isn't a place for this, so I'm putting it here. There is a wonderful book, Last of the Donkey Pilgrims, by Kevin O'Hara ISBN0-765-30984-x www.kevin-ohara.com, which journals the experiences of Kevin and his donkey Missie's travels with just a donkey cart for eight months along the whole coast of Ireland in 1979. He begins his travels at Rattigan's Pub in Kilroosky (we visited it,a small, plain place where only 1 person remembered Kevin(a disappointment) and travels all the way around the island, meeting common Irish people and experiencing their hospitality and a delightful sense of what it is to be Irish. We followed his (and your) itinerary as much as we could and went to many of the places/pubs you both mention...We did a lot of studyig of Irish history and 4 guidebooks before we went. We rented a car and used the AA Road Atlas. We drove back roads (some only goat paths..but there were no tour busses on them!)when we could and saw amazingly beautiful sites we never would have seen had we gone via the big roads. We liked the Beara Peninsula and the Healy Pass every bit as well as the Ring of Kerry. We followed your book's instructions as to how to avoid tour buses, and it worked like a charm. We were disappointed but chose to see Knowth anyway because the Newgrange tickets were already sold out for the day...to our surprise and delight, it was great!..our guide was fabulous, and it was a highlight...you might want to mention this to people so they don't miss it. We so-o loved Ireland...drove 3500 miles and didn't even make it to Northern Ireland...so we'll have to go back!!! We loved Sligo and seeing the places WB Yeats loved so well. We spent an hour or so at the Yeats Exhibit at the Yeats house (also: Hargodon's Pub on O'Connell Street serves a great lunch (stops servingat 1,though)). The Yeats Exhibit at the National Library in Dublin is better displayed, and you hear Yeats recite Inishfree, but you can really see almost the same things both. All in all, we had a wonderfully enlightening exciting fabulous trip! We're exhausted, but Ireland is truly magical! We're retired, so we can recover at our leisure! Thanks for your very helpful and insightful book! We could never have seen/experienced as much as we did without it! Susan and Lamar Robinette in Clemson, sc USA 08/23/2009 It was very helpful to us. Larry in Pearland, TX USA 07/31/2009 Add Molly Gallivans Don Thurmond in Brighton, Mi USA 07/18/2009 The layout of the book is great and we found your practical tips - such as location and use of ATMs, Tourist Information offices, local customs - most helpful. Kay Pitchon in Tarpon Springs, FL USA 07/12/2009 I love Rick Steves guidebooks and it was the only book I brought with me this trip. I would have liked at least some information on other areas. We had been to Ireland before and visited many of the places listed in the book (Skellig Michael remains at the top of my list of favorites for any vacation anywhere), and this time we arranged our trip around my husband's golfing near Dublin, Sligo, Donegal Town, Dunfanaghy, and Kells. I used the book extensively in Dublin and the Boyne Valley but it wasn't much help in the northwest. Shan Hays in Mesa, AZ USA 07/04/2009 An Riasc should be included otherwise this was the best travel book I have ever purchased. Plus we met other travelers with the same book on Ireland. Steve Ferrin in Naperville, Il USA 06/28/2009 While I had a wonderful time using your guidebook, I was wondering if you could provide some advice on disability services in your front section of the book. My best friend, who accompanied me on the trip, has a disorder where she cannot walk very far, and soem general information on handicap access in Ireland would have been helpful. Otherwise, the advice in this book was splendid. Thank you very much for this book! Jessica in Brooklyn, NY USA 06/26/2009 Your book is very good. Almost everyone we met in Ireland was carrying it. You have lots about renting a car, but we found out a few things on our own. We were told we couldn't rent a car in Ireland because of our age (over 70) but we could. We were told we needed to get a letter from our doctor saying we were able to drive and also a letter from our insurance company that we had had no accidents in the past 5 years. We got these but were not asked to show them when we arrived at the rental agency. (Budget) We were told we would have to pay an extra 8% because of our age. Maybe it was figured into the cost, but we didn't see it listed on the car rental agreement when we picked up the car. ABout the waiver...I guess we lucked out. We didn't take it and had no problems when we took the car back but it was pretty scary not knowing exactly what we could owe if we had problems. If we went again, we'd try to get the credit card that covers this. We met a couple who had had the Mastercard that covered them. We'd like to know more about how to get this credit card coverage. Marie & Bob Andel in Kirkwood, MO USA 06/16/2009 No improvements we could think of, just make sure when traveling the updated version is purchased. A few places recommended in the 2008 version are out of business (spring 2009). Thought you should know how much we loved your book Rick! Sarah Arehart in Minot, ND USA 06/12/2009 I felt that your book moved me to places where I would be less likely to be targeted because I'm American...and less likely to be "nickeled and dimed" by the tourist industry and greedy Irish site operators. I think this needs to be illustrated more, because it's so easy to be targeted if you go to Killarney, Blarney Stone, Cliffs of Moher or other must see American sites. I did these things, but I enjoyed other areas more. I'm also not bringing any green next time. We had a wonderful conversation with a couple in Salthill for the Volvo Race, who told us if they wore green, people might think they are leprechauns. The only people I saw wearing green were tourist operators and Americans. I enjoyed my time more when I blended in. Gary Zekis in Little Rock, AR USA 06/09/2009 Great book Gail Buss in Ballwin, MO USA 05/31/2009 I can't imagine. Everything we needed was there and easy to find. Stephanie Simmons in Lapeer, MI USA 05/29/2009 Your book is OUTSTANDING! This was our first trip overseas on our own (ie, w/out parents or business) and we used your book for almost everything, including all the travel info and tips. I read it cover to cover before we left and then we used it constantly. I can't think of a way to improve it but if I do, I'll let you know! Laura Gilligan in Chicago, IL USA 05/25/2009 keep doing what you and your associates do best. Guide books like these are so needed for people like me who don't always know where the best values are and you have done your homework very well. Thank you so much for making my trip an unforgetable experience. Even my 10 yr old grandson will never forget some of the things he got to see and do. But the most fun for him was meeting cousins in Portlaoise! We stayed at the Ivyleigh House B&B and loved the place. It is a very small town, an hour train ride from Dublin, and most tourists probably don't want to go there, we were meeting family members for the first time and were received like "Royalty from America". Everywhere, really, we were always treated kindly and the Irish people were very helpful. We did not get lost once. We took the bus (#748) from the Airport and got off at Aston Quay and with our 3 day Rambler pass enjoyed transportation to and from Heuston Station and to the Airport on our last day and were very impressed with your guide book. I will start working on my next trip which will probably be to France in 2011 with my grand-daughter (she'll be 10 yrs old then) and like her brother this year, should be able to learn about the places we'll visit beforehand and learn from seeing them. Until then, Thank you for your guide books. I totally enjoyed this trip because of you & your associates. Vickie Bell in Bremerton, WA USA 05/20/2009 Some B&Bs I loved, that you may want to consider: Castle Lodge, Kilkenny; Cloisters, Kinsale; Seamount Farmhouse, Bantry (worth visiting Bantry for!!); Driftwood, Kenmare; Conneely's B&B, Kinvara; Tara House, Galway; Lough View, Ramelton; Cullentra House, Cushendall. Janet in Battle Creek, MI USA 05/17/2009 add note that Sinn Fein offers 1916 Tours, that pubs are all closed on Good Friday, more resteraunt listings. KevinMcKenna in Rancho Cordova, ca USA 04/24/2009 Just continue to travel and write for us weary travellers. Rick Steves' book is a complete travellers bible. Kathleen H. Douglas in Yuma, AZ USA 03/16/2009 This was the best travel book I have ever encountered. It was right on with most things. The only improvement I would suggest is adding more addresses to the hotels and sights you recommend because it is hard to find them/program them into the GPS with exact street names and numbers. Vivian Arestia in Philadelphia, PA USA 03/15/2009 About the Aran Islands in the off season. There is only one place past 5 or 6pm to eat and that is at Joe Watty's Pub. The Spar closes at 6pm. The locals at Joe Mac's Pub are welcoming and friendly if you are. There is a new pier being built, so there are alot of mainlanders here working (and drinking). There are definitely more than 100 cars on this island. The book says only 100 are allowed. As I sit here writing this, I can count at least 50 just in the pier area. When I mentioned that I had read that only 100 cars are allowed to a local, he just rolled his eyes and laughed. Right now, about 1000 people live here. It is very sleepy in the off season, but really enjoyable. When you get off the ferry, be ready for the shuttle drivers to accost you about getting in their shuttle. If you are staying the night, go ahead and get in one of the shuttles and put your bag in the back. The shuttles disappear as soon as everyone is off to Dun Angus. The bike hire people are at the end of the pier to meet you as well. Bike hire costs 10 euro. Shuttle buses cost 10 euro. A pint of cider pulled is 4.40 euro. A can of cider is a bit less. Lisa in Madison, WI USA 02/24/2009 We would have loved more information regarding the highways and toll roads that are now in Dublin. We did a driving tour of Ireland and some more road maps would have been great! Michelle Fogarty in San Francisco, CA USA 11/02/2008 The book was great. We used the H3LL out of it on our entire trip. Some of the out-of-the-way tips featured sites that were much better than the usual tourist stops... when we go back, we'll get the 2009 issue of "the blue Bible". Robyn Kevlin in Nashville, TN USA 09/22/2008 Wish you would have had better eating suggestions. We had several bad meals in Dublin. The restaurant inside Guinness was the best meal we had. Pauline Dravet in Marlton, NJ USA 09/13/2008 Add a few color photos. Molly Wilsbacher in Dublin, OH USA 08/24/2008 Modify the driving map (w/ distances and estimated times) to be more accurate/realistic. Margaret in Milwaukee, WI USA 08/11/2008 I can't think of any because this was my first trip abroad. It really gave us a great starting point for our trip. The distances between places was helpful in planning our drive. Maybe a bit more coverage of the area NW of Galway? Kara Porter in Portland, OR USA 07/11/2008 Just keep on listening to us - and thanks for a great job so far Rob Wilson in San Francisco , CA USA 07/07/2008 Best guide book, carried with us all the time. Judy G in Paris, TN USA 06/15/2008 Remove Ashe Townhouse Robin in Austin, TX USA 06/03/2008 you cant,great value. a must have bible george clake in London, uk 05/28/2008 Give more details on the Patton Flyer. We thought we could catch it at the airport, but where to catch it should be added to the book. It definitely leaves right on time. We arrived quite late in the evening from Venice, so we splurged on a cab, and Mary O'Farrell was right on the button when she said it would cost about 40 euros. I believe the cab was 39.30 euros, and it was well worth it at that time of night. Judith Medeiros in Naples, FL USA 05/28/2008 Don't make any radical changes. Noel & Denise Underwood in Vienna, VA USA 05/25/2008 You do a great job! Add Adare--loved the Foolish Fairy shop and the people there are so friendly. Also loved Sneem in Kerry. Mary E. Thanasouras in Palm Beach, FL USA 05/22/2008 I love your book! M. Thanasouras in Palm Beach, FL USA 05/15/2008 Continue to add additional locations. The one problem with the popularity of Rick Steves is the fact that we end up interacting more with others carrying the blue book than we do with locals. I love the approach, but I want to spend more time with the local experience, and less with other Americans who also follow the Rick Steves approach. Sarah Alexander in Seattle, WA USA 04/21/2008 We appreciated all the tips. It's impossible to include everything but it's a great summary. Natalie in Martin, WI USA 04/08/2008 We drove around southern Ireland and found the recommended atlas very helpful for the most part. Unfortunately, the atlas does not have good city maps. Knowing this beforehand would have been helpful. Many of the city maps in the Ireland book were not helpful because they do not cover the whole city or identify one-way and pedestrian only roads (we drove down a few of these!). We ended up lost in almost every city we entered which led to much frustration. Perhaps you could include some tear out city maps in the back of the Ireland book or improve upon the city maps in each chapter. Rachel McGinnis in Brookline, MA USA 02/27/2008 get off the beaten track harry watson in Raleigh, nc USA 02/12/2008 Add some information about northern County Mayo, Achill Island, etc. We stayed in Ballsbridge, outside the City Center in Dublin. A quiet neigborhood with easy access by bus or train to the City Center. You might want to add some information about this area. Nelson Tennison in Mandeville, LA USA 12/09/2007 More maps Dan Hogan in St. Louis, MO USA 11/16/2007 We went to a Jazz Festival Oct. 26th, 27th, 28th in Cork. It was not mentioned in your book under holidays and festivals. It was its 30th year. We saved Trim for our last travel day.Is there a way from Belfast on the train and bus to Trim? We ended up going to Dublin O'Connell station, then to the bus station in Dublin (put luggage in lockers at the bus station).Went to Trim by bus. After a few hours in Trim, we returned to Dublin to get our luggage and took a bus to an airport hotel for flight next day. It was awkward, but it worked. It was nice to meet Rick in Mesa, AZ on Oct 17th. It was my sister's birthay, and going to his travel class was her surprise present! Thanks for the autograph and photo! Deborah Wehunt in Mesa, AZ USA 11/12/2007 Include more restaurants! Linda in Kailua, HI USA 11/01/2007 It's flawless! Kris in Glendale, CA USA 10/17/2007 It would be handy to have tabs inserted in a post-it format so our chosen sites could be tabbed by county. We love that all sites are in alphabetical order in the index. Carol & Rich Fike in Montrose, CO USA 10/14/2007 Add more of your excellent self-guided walking tours and museum tours. Your book neglects the old, historic area of north Belfast up around St. Anne's Cathedral. We found this area very interesting and I think you could make it into a good walking tour. The city has added numerous helpful explanatory signs throughout this area. Richard Pine in Rockville , MD USA 10/12/2007 Add Killarney and Portstewart. janet james in smiths falls, on canada 10/12/2007 Just keep on traveling and writing! Theresa in Walnut Creek, CA USA 10/01/2007 thanks - the book was our bible chris and jim helman in berea, oh USA 09/22/2007 Remove the Ashe Townhouse in Tralee from the recommended sleeping section of the Ireland book. Tom Fraher in Chicago, IL USA 09/16/2007 you should add the garnish house in cork city. it is the best b& b I have ever been to in my life-- i posted a comment on it under the graffiti page-- under Garnish House and my first name! melissa in boston, ma USA 09/05/2007 Maybe darken part of the edge of pages of major cities (Dublin, Galway, Cork) so you can flip to those sections faster. D Husby in Moraga, CA USA 08/24/2007 Do not include dingy, depressing places when there are really nice places to stay at the same price. Jean Boler in Seattle , Wa USA 08/11/2007 I think the bood is good, but Ireland is so diverse and has so many things to see; I used Rick's book along with Lonely Planet and Rough Guides and all three covered all the bases. Melissa in Mason, OH USA 08/11/2007 None! We referred to it often while driving through Ireland. C. Ruiz in Phoenix, AZ USA 08/08/2007 See my comments above. The book is great....the Heritage Card is a great buy. We followed almost all of the book's advice and appreciated it. Dan Peterson in Brier, WA USA 08/08/2007 Inform readers that street names or not posted on signs but often on buildings when they are navigating city maps. Mary Wise in Bay Village, OH USA 08/02/2007 Add more historical information about the sightes in the book. James in Seattle , WA USA 08/01/2007 Provide a few options outside of Dingle Town on the Dingle peninsula for accomodations. Amy in Kloese, IL USA 07/27/2007 More info included on Northern Ireland accomadations. Margaret Hansen in Eugene, OR USA 07/19/2007 More information about Cork City. Paul Stanley in Maple Ridge, BC Canada 07/19/2007 Just keep on keepin on! Thanks Arleen Amato in Paducah, KY USA 07/18/2007 I must say your book was a wonderful guide. Your recommendations were on the mark. I wouldn't have missed Kilmainham Gaol:tour guide was so mesmerizing with his love of history & Guinness Factory Tour gave a great site of Dublin from the roof top bar. Kilkenny Castle & Rock of Cashel/ Hoar Abbey and the walk up to the spire at St. Canice's cathedral Fort Charles walk in Kinsale (high road there and the low road back) Wished we stayed longer at Killarney National Park. The horse and buggy tour was great fun thanks to Anthony our guide. We were unable to see Muckross House and traditional farms because we had such a lovely hike up to the waterfall in the park. I think this park is well worth two days Kathy Ryan in Rockaway Beach, NY USA 07/18/2007 Confirm and Update the info on Bushmill's tour Northern Ireland. Possibly omit the volunteer information. They no longer take volunteers. Elaine Hart in Dallas, Tx USA 07/16/2007 College Crest B&B should be included in your guide. It was definatley most hospitable guest house I have ever stayed in! Karen Platt in Cardiff, n/ Wales 07/02/2007 As noted above, by providing lodging options in Doolin; we stayed at Daly's House, 065-707-4242 / www.dalys-doolin.com and were very pleased with charming Susan Daly and our accommodations; we also noted that the Roadford House had new and convenient lodging, and that there are now many other options in Doolin. Bob Lata in Paso Robles, CA USA 07/01/2007 I flew into Dublin and out of Shannon. With the public transportation, it took quite a while to get from Dingle to Shannon Airport. I had an early flight, so I just needed somewhere cheap to crash the night before. I ended up in a bed and breakfast in Limerick, which I would not recommend, but it was an easy connection to the airport the next morning. It would have been great to have a couple of inexpensive options there. Angela McConnell in Madras, OR USA 06/29/2007 Rick's books were a HUGE help in planning our trip. We suggest them to fellow travelers. Linda Jacobsen in Perry, IA USA 06/29/2007 This book is outstanding. My only regret is not reading it twice before my trip (or take more notes). There is so much great information. I am very pleased and grateful for the help. Go raibh maith agat! William Lavey in Wakefield, MA USA 06/24/2007 This is the gold standard. The number of people talking 'Steves' floored us. I would suggest a page where all of the three star and two star attractions (and location) are listed as a quick reference to people wanting to dig out the highlights quickly McNeil's On Canda 06/04/2007 Wherever possible, include a category of best off-season tips so such first-time travelers can make the most of the experience (like weekdays in the big cities to get live music, on weekends you can find it easier in even the smaller towns, etc). Colleen in Bloom, MD USA 06/04/2007 Verify times and dates for unique events before publishing them in the book. David Evans in Oak Hill, VA USA 06/01/2007 Better driving map. Kathleen Surrette in Stratford, CT USA 05/07/2007 More on Northern Ireland. We loved and had many wonderful experiences. The pubs were great and really enjoyed the traditional Irish Music when we could find it! HarLyn Mlynek in Colorado Springs, Co USA 05/06/2007 I would have liked to seen recommendations for Cork city. While other towns in County Cork are discussed, noting is mentioned about the city of Cork. Jessica Jacko in Merrillville, IN USA 04/30/2007 There was no information about the interior of the country! We loved the interior! We stayed in Athlone and visited O'Shea's. . . the oldest pub in Ireland. . . according to Guiness Book of Records. Great Pub! Three rooms; one for the bar, one for watching football on the TV, and one big one outside for enjoying the weather and atmostphere. Heather Pardue in Ocala, FL USA 04/16/2007 No complaints by me. More detailed directions in certain areas would be helpful. List Cill Bhreac House Meg Young in Colorado, USA 04/15/2007 Explain the rating system for lodging better. The guide says that rates are per person. So, it wasn't clear whether the "double" rooms rates were for the room or per person staying in the room. I'm still trying to figure this out. Heather in Arlington, VA USA 04/04/2007 My husband and I used your book as our "bible" during our trip. The travel tips, recommendations, and cultural/historical information helped to make our trip outstanding. My only recommendation would be to give suggested trip itineraries to maximaze experiences and help give realistic ideas that can be doable in a a certain period of time. Erin Peabody in Great Lakes, IL USA 03/30/2007 More driving directions and more day trip itineraries Todd Peabody in Great Lakes, IL USA 03/29/2007 I just purchased the Ireland 2007 and do not see any reference to recommendations for B&B accommodations for Dublin city. I wondered why? Suburbs - yes, but nothing for center city Dublin. James McCartney in New Ringgold, PA USA 02/22/2007 Perhaps consider noting that Dublin isn't particularly kid friendly. Also note that train travel is not terribly expensive, provides great views of the country for those not inclined to drive, and isn't as crammed as on the continent. Brett Fleitz in Carmel, In USA 01/10/2007 While traveling to Galway Ireland this past August 2006, my wife and I were stranded at Heathrow airport on the day of the terrorist arrests. This caused us to delay our arrival at Auburn House in Galway, Ireland where we were to join our daughter and her friend. Proprietors of Auburn House, Roddy and Mary Wyer completely understood our situation and provided all the comfort and supervision to our daughter and friend in our absence. Arriving in Galway a day late and without my luggage, we began our Irish vacation. Due to their concern for our well-being and gentle hospitality, the Wyers made this much less stressful than it could have been. Roddy very kindly provided me with all the clothes necessary until my baggage arrived at Auburn House. Mary Wyer then personally delivered my bag to our hotel as we had already moved to our next destination. Their hospitality alone is worth the visit to their B&B, which is beautiful, very clean, and Mary is a marvelous cook. I cannot say enough about the experience at their home. I believe Auburn House is worthy of mention and should be included within your Irish travel books not only because of the personal service which they provide but it is very conveniently located on the bus line coming to and from Shannon Airport and is minutes from downtown Galway. Their contact info is Auburn House B&B, 1 Merlin Gate, Dublin Road, Galway, tel. 011-353-91-771018, www.auburnhousegalway.com.
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