Program 337: Plight of Indigenous Peoples; Beauty in a Broken World; Ever-Evolving Berlin

Release Date: 09-07-2013

On Air Description

The September 11th attacks did not keep Terry Tempest Williams from traveling. On the next Travel with Rick Steves, we'll hear how she found beauty in a broken world, in Italy, and where you'd least expect it, in Rwanda. 

Phil Borges tells us what he's learned from photographing indigenous people around the world. 

And Peter Wortsman returns with insights into why he loves the ever-evolving nature of Germany's capital city, Berlin.

Let the world amaze you each week on Travel with Rick Steves.


  • Photographer Phil Borges, author of "Tibet: Culture on the Edge" (Rizzoli)
  • Author and naturalist Terry Tempest Williams, author of "Beauty in a Broken World" (Pantheon Books) and "When Women Were Birds" (Picador)
  • Playwright Peter Wortsman, author of "Ghost Dance in Berlin" (Travelers Tales)

Related Links


  • "My wife and I are taking our 21, 18, and 15 year-olds on a two-week tour of Germany, with three days in Berlin (their first time in Europe).  Suggestions on a couple of Berlin attractions we should not miss?"  (Rick in Henderson, Nevada)
  • Caller asks about the impact of climate change on indigenous people in Tibet.  (Sally in Lavelle, Pennsylvania - in Program 337 Extra-1)

Incidental Music

  • London Philharmonic Orchestra, Leonard Slatkin, cond., “Sea Interludes from 'Peter Grimes': Dawn (B. Britten),” Out Classics (collection) / RCA
  • Tulku, "Life Force (Kupuri)," Transcendence / Worldly-Triloka
  • Robert Mirabal, "The Dance," Many Blessings (collection) / Silver Wave
  • * Jean-Luc Ponty, "In Spiritual Love," Individual Choice / Atlantic
  • Philip Boulding, "Song for Reconciliation," Global Meditation, vol. 4:  Melody from the Heart (collection) / Ellipses Arts
  • Claudine Steenackers, "Persephone (Nue)," Invocation (collection) /  RealWorld-Caroline
  • EKO, "Eclipse," Panorama, disc 2 (collection) / Higher Octave
  • Geoffrey Oryema, "Lapwony," Carnival! (collection) / The Rainforest Foundation-RCA Victor
  • * The Pearlfishers, “Berlin,” Sky Meadows / Marina Records
  • Funkhaus, "Funkhaus Soul,"  Berlin Lounge-Berlin By Day  (collection) / Wagram (France)
  • Marlene Dietrich, "Sag Mir Adieu," The Very Best of Marlene Dietrich / Stardust
  • Instrumental intro to Gretl Theimer, "'So lang' nach durch Wien die Donau fliesst' from 'Johann Orth der verschollene Habsburger'," Chronik deutscher Filmmusik - History of German Film Music, vol. 2: Melidie der Liebe (1931-1933) (collection) / Jube
  • Nor Elle, "The Real Thing," Berlin Lounge-Berlin By Day (collection) / Wagram  (France)
  • Peter Thomas, “Theme for Airport,” Deutsche Filmkomponisten Folge 5 / Bear Family Records (Germany)
  • GaGaElectriX, “Get Down,” On The Beat / (self-released)
  • Josem, "Balamouk," Josem:  20 ans / (self-released) (France)
  • Munchener Bach Orchester, Karl Richter, conductor, “Brandenburg Concerto No. 5,  III:   Allegro (J.S. Bach),” Bach: 6  urg Concertos, 4 Ouvertures, Tripel Concerto BWV 1044 / Deutsche Grammophon

Dated References

  • In the open of today's billboard, Rick references the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks by asking "Where were you on 9-11?"  Terry Tempest Williams talks about being in Washington DC on that morning in her segment B interview, starting at 21:10.
  • At 8:00 in segment A, Phil Borges and Rick talk about a recent oil spill in the Amazon that was "double the size of the Exxon Valdez spill."
  • Phil says, at 9:15, that "for the last eight years" he's been focusing  on development work aimed at the roles of women and girls in developing countries. 
  • At 10:00, Rick notes that six-thousand languages have no children speaking them, and are expected to go extinct in the next generation.  He adds that a language goes extinct every two weeks. 
  • In his intro to segment B, Rick notes that Terry Tempest Williams traveled at the time of the September 11 attacks, and soon afterward. 
  • At 23:20, Terry says she is sensitized to issues of free speech, and explains that it's sometimes been an issue in her home state of Utah. 

Program Extras

Program 337 Extra #1 - Caller Sally from Pennsylvania asks Phil Borges about the impact of climate change on indigenous people in Tibet. (runs 2:44)

Program 337 Extra #2 - Rick and Terry Tempest Williams share thoughts about how time is valued in different societies, and Terry tells Rick what she loves about traveling, and about spending time alone. (runs 4:47)