Program 366b: Correspondent in India; World of Madhur Jaffrey; Chaos, Italian Style

Release Date: 08-12-2023

On-Air Description

We get a personal look at India and Italy on the next Travel with Rick Steves. 

Reporter Nick Bryant tells us what he learned about Indian society, while he was stationed in New Delhi as a foreign correspondent.

And actress Madhur Jaffrey shares childhood memories from the time when British colonialism came to an end in Delhi.

Plus, friends from Italy tell Rick how they cope with strikes and the seemingly everyday chaos of their country.

Guests

  • Journalist Nick Bryant, author of "Confessions from Correspondentland: The Dangers and Delights of Life as a Foreign Correspondent" (Oneworld)
  • Actress Madhur Jaffrey, author of "Climbing the Mango Trees" (Vintage), "Madhur Jaffrey's Curry Nation" (Ebury Press) and "Seasons of Splendour" (Puffin)
  • Ann Long, tour guide based near Sorrento, Italy
  • Cecilia Bottai, vintner and tour guide, based in Orvieto, Italy

Additional Info

Incidental Music

  • Tin Hat Trio, "The Quick Marble Tremble," Memory Is An Elephant / Angel
  • BRU_BR_0267_01801_India_Groove_1_APM
  • Declan Flynn, "Bahatu," Nirvana Lounge by Claude Challe & Ravin, disc 1  (collection) / Challo Music (France)
  • Jamshied Sharifi, "One Who Plants a Tree," A Prayer for the Soul of Layla / Alula
  • KPM_KPM_0389_00101_This_India_APM
  • * René Touzat, "Baby Elephant Walk," Cocktail Mix, vol. 2 (collection) / Rhino
  • Seattlemusic, "A Feast at the Italian Center," The Contemplation of Bravery: Music by Joseph Bertolozzi / (self-released)
  • Michelle Sell, "Morning Heart," Secret Harbor / Sugo Music 
  • [ OMI_SCB_0003_01001_Forest_Dream_APM ]
  • CEZ_CEZ_4307_01401_Passage_to_India_APM
  • B C Smith, "Movienight," Outsourced (soundtrack) / ShadowCatcher Entertainment
  • Korla Pandit, "Procession of the Grand Moghul," Remembering Korla Pandit / Dejavu
  • Chitalkar, Chorus, Lata Mangeshkar, Mohd. Rafi, Shamshad Begum, “Namaste Namaste,” Patanga (1949) / Saregama
  • Benny Goodman Sextet, "Rose Room," I’m Beginning to See the Light  (soundtrack collection from Ken Burns' The War) / Legacy 
  • Ike Turner and His Kings of Rhythm, "Hasdi Hasdi (Hit Squad Mix)," Buddha Bar, vol. 8, disc 1 (collection) / George V (France)
  • Soho Travelers, "Elements of Nature (Light of the Bar Mix)," Indian Chill Lounge  (collection) / 4 Elements Records
  • - Eduardo Rodriguez, "Cantarela," Duende (collection) / Ellipses Arts
  • - Nancy Allen, “'Passepied' from 'Suite Bergamasque'  (Debussy),” The Music of Ravel and Debussy / Angel Records
  • Les Baxter's Drums, "Mood Tattooed," Cocktail Mix, vol. 1 (collection) / Rhino
  • * Oliver Shanti & Friends, “Sacral Nirvana,” Buddha-Bar III by Ravin (collection) / George V Records (France)
  • Jamshied Sharifi, "Ammeh Kimia," A Prayer for the Soul of Layla / Alula
  • NIGHT_NIGHT_0137_00501_Dreaming_Of_Delhi_APM
  • SCOR_SCORE_0086_02601_Happy_Birthday_India_a_APM
  • Chitalkar, Chorus, Lata Mangeshkar, Mohd. Rafi, Shamshad Begum, “Namaste Namaste,” Patanga (1949) / Saregama
  • Lausanne Chamber Orchestra, Jesus Lopez-Cobos, conductor, “‘Danza rustica,’ from ‘Ancient Airs and Dances, Suite No. 2’ (Respighi),” Bella Tuscany (collection) / Telarc
  • Dick Hyman and his Orchestra, "Washington Square," Cocktail Mix, vol. 2 (collection) / Rhino

 

* Indicates filler music used during breaks

Dated References

  • In the billboard, the audio quote from Ann Long notes that "you'll never have a strike in July and August" in Italy.
  • Nick Bryant describes, starting at 7:45, how Hyderabad, India has become a modern high-tech center, and is sometimes nicknamed "Cyberabad." At 9:25 he estimates the middle class in India numbers 250 million (and growing), comparable to numbers in the United States.
  • At 13:24, Nick comments that one of India's advantages over China is the youth of its population.
  • At 18:38, in forward-promoting the following segment, Rick mentions it is Madhur Jaffrey's 90th birthday. He says so again in a reset at 44:55.
  • At 23:27, in response to Madhur's Jaffrey's description of British rule in India, Rick notes that contemporary conflicts in Syria and Iraq are partly due to border lines drawn by the British years ago that did not account for actual population patterns in those countries.
  • In a reset at 24:30, Rick notes that Madhur's most recent book is "Seasons of Splendour." He lists more of her titles in resets at 31:47 and 44:55.
  • At 25:30, Rick and Madhur mention that there are now more middle-class citizens in India than the entire population of the United States. Madhur figures it at around 400 million. 
  • Ann Long explains the seasonality of labor strikes in Italy, in segment C, starting at 49:45. She says they never strike in July or August, or around Christmas, but that October is a common time for strikes.  Cecilia adds that strikes usually last for a day or two, with exceptions that allow for providing minimal service.
  • Cecilia explains, starting at 50:51, that a poor economy in Italy has contributed to "a 25% reduction in traffic in Rome in the past year."
  • At 55:35, Cecilia describes how some Italians avoid paying taxes. Ann adds that a recent controversial law allows the police to audit private bank accounts at any time and for any reason.
  • Rick notes that Ann has lived in Italy "for 34 years" at 48:27 and at 56:24.

Haiku Awards

Pgm 366 Haiku awards

Among redwood trees
in Armstrong Grove. We look up
and keep looking up.
— Claire J Baker, Pinole, California

 

La Alberca's pig
who bums around for morsels
in the Spanish square
— Roy Barnes, Cheyenne, Wyoming 

 

Outside Alhambra
Is the one time I wanted
some reservations
— Shelly DeLeon, Astoria, Oregon 

 

Up above the world
Puddles of colors below
If I could just jump
— Cecilia Mazanec, Winter Park, Florida  

 

"How you're old?," he asks.
Wonder how sound I to him?
Language gap is vast.
— Michael Venn, Mokpo, South Korea.