Program 697a: Sacred Paris; Raising a Family in France; A Place in the World

What can make a place feel like home for you? On the next Travel with Rick Steves, writer Frances Mayes reveals what living in both Tuscany and North Carolina has meant to her.

An American who married a Frenchman tells us what it's like to raise three young children these days, in a small town outside Paris.

And author Susan Cahill recommends some of the most magnificent religious architecture to explore in Paris — sacred spaces where you're likely to find a warm welcome.

• Susan Cahill, author of "Sacred Paris" (St. Martin's Griffin)
• Franco-American Mary Campbell Bouron
• Frances Mayes, author of "A Place in the World" (Crown)

• The latest book about Paris by Susan Cahill explores the city's significant religious architecture. It's called "Sacred Paris."
• L'Officiel Spectacles provides listings of cultural events in Paris and vicinity.
• Mary Campbell Bouron joined Rick in 2012 to talk about being a mother in Paris for the first time, and offered cultural tips on program #308 on "How to Walk Like a Parisian."
• Mary wrote several blog entries in 2012 about living in Paris on her site "How To Marry A Frenchman."
• Frances Mayes is the author of a number of best-selling books on living in Italy and appreciating its convivial culture, including her classic "Under the Tuscan Sun." In "A Place in the World" Frances explores how she makes herself feel at home in both Italy and the United States.
• Frances spoke previously with Rick about eating in Italy on Travel with Rick Steves program #596 in March 2020 She and Rick explored the significance of the piazza, or neighborhood plazas, in Italian cities and towns on program #558 in March 2019, and on program #622 in December 2020.

• Women's Philharmonic, JoAnn Falletta, Cond., "Overture (Fanny Mendelssohn)," The Women's Philharmonic: Boulanger, Tailleferre, Mendelssohn, Schumann / Koch International Classics
• David M. Patrick, "Scherzo, no. 2 (Derufflé)," French Organ Masterworks / Sanctuary Classics
• Daniel Blanchet, "Émeraude (Le chemin de l'ermite)," Au-Dela du Rubicon (collection) / Disques Rubicon
• Naoko Yoshino, "Impromptu for harp in D flat major, op. 86 Fauré)," The Healing Harp / Philips
• Robert Shaw, Atlanta Symphony Orchestra & Chorus, "'Sanctus' from 'Requiem, Op. 48' (Fauré)," The Power and the Majesty / Telarc
• Alexander Sedov, Chorovaya Akademia, Mikhail Strokin, "Maleoi slavosloviye (Small Hymns of Praise)," Ancient Echoes / RCA Victor Red Seal
• Le Garcons Bouchers, Pigalle, "Pascal le keupon et l'amour," Urgence (disc 2) (collection) / Virgin France
• Choir of Trinity College, "Requiem in Paradisum (Fauré)," In Search of Angels (soundtrack) / Windham Hill
• * Beltuner, "Dépression Au Dessus Du Jardin," Beltuner Album #2 / Ici-Label
• Novelty Fox, "Slalom a la Croix Fry," The Rough Guide to Paris Café (collection) / Rough Guides-World Music Network
• Rouge Rouge, "C'est Presque Ca," Paris Lounge 2: Paris By Day (collection) / Wagram
• F. Barcellini, "Des Forains" (from the Jacques Tati film "Jour de Fete"), Music from the Films of Jacques Tati / Phillips-PolyGram (France)
• Colin Dale, "Gardens," Paris Lounge, vol. 2, disc 2 (collection) / Wagram
• * Symfunny Orchestra, "Take Five," Jazz Classiks on Toys / Atma
• Christophe Beck, "Bramasole," Under the Tuscan Sun (soundtrack) / Hollywood Records
• Cincinnati Pops, Erich Kunzel, cond., "'Di Provenza il mar, il suol' from 'La Traviata' (Verdi)," Bella Tuscany (collection) / Telarc
• KOS_KOS_0379_00701_Dinner_With_Gustav_APM
• Lausanne Chamber Orchestra, conducted by Jesús López-Cobos, "'Danza rustica,' from 'Ancient Airs and Dances, Suite No. 2,' (Respighi)," Bella Tuscany (collection) / Telarc
• SON_SAS_0056_01201_Serenata_Fiorentina_APM
• National Philharmonic Orchestra, Giannandrea Gavazzeni, cond., "'Intermezzo' from 'Cavalleria Rusticana' (Mascagni)," The #1 Opera Album (collection) / Decca
• Orchestra dell'Accademia Nazionale di Santa Cecilia, Lorin Maazel, cond., "Act 3-Prelude, 'Io de sospire,'" Puccini: Tosca / Decca (1999)
• Andre Rieu, "'Intermezzo' from 'Cavalleria Rusticana' (Mascagni)," Dreaming / Decca

* Indicates filler music used during internal breaks on the broadcast

• In the open to segment A, and at 18:52, Rick says that the pandemic helped Frances Mayes re-evaluate the roles of her sense of home in Tuscany and North Carolina. Rick also mentions the effects of the pandemic lockdowns during the segment C intro at 40:33.
• At 10:03, Susan says that renovations that have just been completed to the St. Germain des Pres church have unearthed 12th-century statues nearby.
• At 11:08, Susan refers to the churches of Paris remaining open to view their art while museums were closed during the pandemic.
• At 24:07, Mary says that her children are 8, 10, and 12 years old.
• Frances notes that "travel has been sort of fraught the past two years" at 40:52, and adds that her last book about Italy was released just as the pandemic started. She replies to Rick that her town of Cortona has "bounced back" to "more or less normal."
• In an updated reset at 45:09, Rick notes that his interview with Frances was recorded when "A Place in the World" was first released, and adds that her new novel is called "A Great Marriage."
• Rick calls "A Place in the World" Frances Mayes' "latest book" in the resets at 48:12 and 54:15.
• In discussing Italy's emphasis on the seasonality of foods, Frances says at 55:58 that she just ate broccoli for the first time since last winter (implying it's not in season in Italy). She adds that asparagus is not available in Tuscany in the winter, either.