Program 616: Zagreb; Natchez; Leave Only Footprints

Release Date: 10-03-2020


Learn why Croatia's capital, Zagreb, is a hidden gem for visitors to eastern central Europe, where tourist crowds have never been a problem. Author Richard Grant tells us why Natchez is called the quirkiest town in Mississippi, and what its slave-owning history can teach America today. And reporter Conor Knighton tells us what he learned after spending a year exploring every US national park.


  • Zagreb-based tour guide Darija Gotic  
  • Historian and guide Ben Curtis, author of "A Traveller's History of Croatia" (Interlink)
  • Richard Grant, author of "The Deepest South of All: True Stories from Natchez, Mississippi" (Simon and Schuster)
  • CBS-TV correspondent Conor Knighton, author of "Leave Only Footprints" (Crown)

Additional Info

  • Rick's online guide to Zagreb, Croatia.
  • Tour guide Darija Gotic in Zagreb can be contacted through the Zagreb Guides website.
  • Ben Curtis has written "A Traveller's History of Croatia" and "The Habsburgs: The History of a Dynasty."
  • Richard Grant writes for Smithsonian magazine, the New York Times, and other publications. He is the author of "The Deepest South of All."
  • The website for Visit Natchez has a new slogan for the city, "Where the river is wide
  • and the history runs deep."
  • Richard Grant talks with Rick about his experiences renovating a farmhouse on the Mississippi Delta on Travel with Rick Steves program #434A, which last aired in July 2018.
  • He also describes touring options in the Mississippi Delta region on program #449 from July 2016.
  • Conor Knighton writes about visiting each of 59 US national parks in one year, in his book, "Leave Only Footprints." Conor recently filmed a profile of Rick's lockdown experience at his home in Edmonds, Washington; it is expected to air soon on CBS Sunday Morning.
  • CBS Sunday Morning features an excerpt from Conor's audio book on its website.

Program Extras

More with Richard Grant - Richard Grant tells us about the unexpected social mores of Old Natchez that he discovered, which include a distinct legacy of mixed-race families from its pre-Civil War days. (runs 4:05)